Vanzandt vs. Destriero Trading Competition

Discussion in 'Journals' started by destriero, Jun 29, 2018.

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  1. Wow....the posts were consecutive and it was pretty clear what it was (for those that trade ES regularly). Someone thought you closed an equity option position on Sunday night? haha
     
    #151     Jul 1, 2018
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  2. destriero

    destriero

    Yeah, TSLA. I netted it OTC with Elon.
     
    #152     Jul 1, 2018
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Here's your golden opportunity to shine Van, show us you can do it as we have heard lots.
    Saying that, over short time frames, Luck often plays a large influence, both good and bad.
     
    #153     Jul 1, 2018
  4. destriero

    destriero

    AZO in the morning.
     
    #154     Jul 1, 2018
  5. Gotcha

    Gotcha

    In all fairness, @southall has a point. The entry was clear for the 2 ES contracts, but the exit is buried within comments about TSLA. Yes, an experienced trader will realize equity markets are closed, and will understand quoting ES with only the 2 last digits, and if he is really quick with numbers, he will remember the 24 entry, know an exit at 16 is 8 points lost, and know this is $400 per contract, so that is how you get to ($800), but its lots of steps to jump through.

    In my humble opinion, the confusion is justified, although its obvious that @destriero moves a million a minute in his thought process so he sees things differently.

    Holy shit. TSLA ain't helpin this mkt. Out 16.00 ($800).
     
    #155     Jul 1, 2018
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  6. destriero

    destriero


    Regardless, I'm always going to default to getting the price out there, unedited. If there is confusion at least it won't be on price. TSLA was mentioned as it was the rationale behind getting long.

    vanzandt doesn't post screenshots because his fills are dubious. He also accused me of "delayed" fills at 6:01 Eastern. The ES sell to cover at 6:35 was the worst possible price.

    It's (VZ's) obfuscation and outright lying in an attempt to blow it up so he can walk away with a loss. Not going to happen.
     
    #156     Jul 1, 2018
  7. I liked the long ES idea even though it went against the grain of Friday's close. I thought it may have been a relative position tactical adjustment to partially "lock in" an early, but significant lead on Vanzandt.

    I'm surprised it resulted in an eight point loss. I have heard that successful ES traders rarely lose more than 3 points on a ES trade and top traders, with a prior floor trading background, don't usually give up more than 1 tick.

    I glad this post was edited, but it is still too harsh.

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      How are you out of the TSLA trade?
      I wanna see that.
      You’re a f*cking idiot. It’s long mkt into TSLA news,

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    #157     Jul 1, 2018
  8. 8 positions

    7 equity options
    1 futures

    Rather than take 1 minute to read the chain of posts, VZ cmae back with some BS attack and claim for screenshots when VZ has not posted any. As I said, the only position that could be closed on a Sunday night was clearly the ES trade. Why would anyone thinkg that is was one of the first 7 posiitons which were option trades?

    Simple....laziness of ET crowd to rather than ask a simple question, make up an attack.

    Anyone could have simply said "Just to be sure that is the ES trade you closed?" and the answer would have been a simple yes.
     
    #158     Jul 1, 2018
  9. destriero

    destriero


    I am short deltas in SPX, SPY, etc. hence the long ES into the TSLA news. I am also neutral TSLA and will lose above 355 in shares. I should've had a four point stop but I expected to hold it through Monday's close.

    lol another troll. If you're a price-taker you give up a tick on every trade, Kitten.

    Were you up over 2% on Friday? It's rhetorical A troll that was begging to enter a message board contest. #blocked.
     
    #159     Jul 1, 2018
  10. You know of professional traders who use 1 tick stops?
    Wow.....

    You ignore the other 7 trades being up and focus on a swing scalp on ES? Where is your inciteful commentary on VZs trade...

    Most option traders don't give up $0.01 on their trades right?
     
    #160     Jul 1, 2018
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