The reason these vaccines are dangerous is the number of deaths from it. The usual flu shot we take has been thoroughly, tested before FDA approval. These vaccines have been approved on emergency basis with the side effects not known for like a year out. Moderna would not complete its study till October 2022. Per Dr. Simone Gold, the number of deaths from these vaccines comparing it to the flu shots we take yearly, is 10 times the deaths from the flu shots. And if you are one of the casualties, will the ET trolls say, oh, it is just 2% or 5% of those who took vaccine shots? Will our ET trolls feel the same way if they or members of their immediate family were part of the casualties? In the bizarro world of extreme liberal idiots including, ET trolls, all is good. Okay chumps.
Since smallfil likes to troll these boards posting absolutely false information while having people on ignore. Let's outline the facts. The FDA/CDC only require 6 months of follow-up data from a Phase 3 trial before filing for full FDA approval. Both Pfizer and Moderna have submitted their data for full FDA approval of their COVID vaccines. Moderna is not waiting to complete its study in October 2022. This is obviously false. Moderna has already submitted the required data to the FDA for full approval. Dr. Simone Gold of "America's Frontline Doctors" is a idiotic COVID-denier who has pushed HCQ, Bleach, 5G and other obscene COVID nonsense. Anything coming from Dr. Simone Gold is pure crap which should not be believed. Would you want some of Stella Immanuel's demon sperm with that? Statistically the COVID vaccine is one of the safest in history at this point in terms of side-effects or deaths over the 2021 vaccination period. In the bizarro world of COVID-deniers pushing mis-represented data from VAERS -- somehow believe there are many deaths caused by the vaccine -- which even the administrators of VAERS stated is completely false. It is time that people stopped pushing fact-free COVID-denier anti-vaxxer nonsense they read from dubious sources on the Internet.
how many times do I have to say healthy kids. If I had preexisting conditions... I would either stay home or get the vaccine at any age. healthy kids do not need assholes like you forcing this vaccine on them... when the stats show it is similar to the flu for them. or less if the guess about how many asymptomatic people had covid... are low. b. 275 cases of myocarditis in the under 24 age group and they are just beginning to vaccinate those young adults and teen agers. It is a very significant concern and its why the CDC and other institutions are stuyding the issue right now. Lets see if this is just a blip or it becomes a larger concern. That you refuse to acknowledge that people should be skeptical and smart people may choose to review the stats before taking the vaccine.. .shows you to be a true fear filled dickhead. (and that insults dicks heads)
Let's just have infected "healthy" kids running around infecting everyone else. It sounds like you don't have a clue about how herd immunity works. The downside of catching COVID for kids -- especially including life-long medical issues (aka Long COVID) is much worse than the possible side-effects of the vaccine.
What the fuck is wrong with your thinking. If you are your friends are afraid... take the vaccine. You are the moron who said there was no such thing as herd immunity. You denied t cell immunity... and you lied about antibodies only lasting 3 months... refusing to acknowledge that they could last longer. All you do is make shit up... to defend your fear filled fascist narrative. Finally... lets talk about who spreads covid. 1. very little evidence of asymptomatic spread. 2. Statistically speaking young healthy people are likely to be asymptomatic and very unlikely to wind up being very sick and spreading Covid to more than one person. So protect yourself. So get your vaccine protect yourself and let our kids make their own choices you fascist moron.
I stated over and over again there is "vaccinated herd immunity". Are you deaf or dumb? There is no "natural herd immunity" with COVID since getting there would require an awful death toll and natural antibody immunity is not present in 40% of those infected at the 6 month mark and wanes significantly in most of the other 60%. There is a T-Cell response which reduces the potential impact of a future infection. There is no T-cell immunity -- this is a farce. Only antibodies provide immunity. People -- like you -- pushing T-cell immunity nonsense after actual tests found only a low percentage of the population with antibodies -- were simply pushing your latest fantasy to try to justify your failed "no-lockdown" narrative. There is plenty of evidence for asymptomatic spread of COVID. In fact people tend to be the most infectious in their early days of contacting it before they show symptoms. It appear you know little about COVID and are simply continuing to push absurd narratives.
1. Exactly my point you fucking idiot. The article posted above... by you.... discusses T cell immunity... you ignorant idiot. 2. You continue to fail to understand that many areas with pretty high infections rates showed evidence of herd immunity. The new york times discussed its probably existence in parts of new york. How many people were actually infected will never be known. In some place it could have been enough to meet the conservative thresholds some doctors and scientists touted in the 70% level. However... other scientists and google scientists tried to explain to you... that natural herd immunity may come at levels in the 20s or 30s... because the math shows that virus do not spread at random. The spread in networks... and after they infect the first wave... the have much harder times infecting later waves because the first wave... the low hanging fruit is either dead, immune or hiding.
Keep pushing your complete nonsense. If it was not so dangerous and idiotic -- it would be amusing. Even by the basic theory and math of how herd immunity works -- the lowest possible threshold for herd immunity is 50% for a disease that is not highly infectious. This is the baseline minimum (50% min) of how herd immunity works. Go read the theory related to the early measles studies out of Baltimore and understand it. COVID is significantly infectious so the herd immunity threshold will be above 70% -- and probably closer to 85%. Your absurd claims that the herd immunity threshold was below 50% is laughable -- especially when you try to claim that an unknown number of individuals with "T-cell immunity" (which does not exist) somehow magically counts towards the "natural herd immunity" threshold. Only antibody immunity is relevant towards achieving herd immunity.
How many times does this have to be stated... T-cell response will reduce the severity of the disease if you catch it. It does not provide any sort of immunity to you from catching the disease. Only antibodies provide you with immunity to a disease. The best way to get appropriate antibody levels to avoid catching a disease is via vaccination.