US's triple-A credit rating 'under threat'

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Cdntrader, Jan 11, 2008.

  1. the most expensive pile of paper around is the 10 - 30 yr US Tres. imho
     
    #11     Jan 11, 2008
  2. What if the forward looking inflation rates for the next 10 yrs are negative and we have a 3 year slowdown accompanied by a large drop in corporate earnings? Not to mention short term yields settling at under 3%. Are treasuries so expensive paying 4.3%? I think they might still have price upside at 3% yields if that scenario is correct.
     
    #12     Jan 11, 2008
  3. toc

    toc

    'cut benefits and raise retirement age'

    you sound like an unapologitic republiscum!

    how about cut defense budget by $100B a year, encourage more exports even at break even profits, ask europeans to chip in more for their defense, encourage green energy alternatives, allow cheaper but quality controlled drugs from Asia to reduce health costs, reduce prison expenditures, increase taxes on ultra profitable companies like Oil firms in the last 5 years.
     
    #13     Jan 11, 2008
  4. i also agree. cut defense as much as possible.

    and i vote democrat.. heheh.

    but i'm not sure if i agree on taxing the oil firms.. their margins are in line...

    I'd much rather tax SUVs and gasoline itself.. how about a $10k tariff to buy an SUV or any vehicle below 25mpg from henceforth -- fix the problem at the consumption side to kill the oil price.

    If you add another tax to gasoline, it will reduce demand considerably. This demand reduction will partially offset the extra 'cost' to the end user, and will set a lower quantity supplied equilibrium.


    Do I sound republican now?
     
    #14     Jan 11, 2008
  5. Cutten

    Cutten

    Is this the same Moody's that gave investment grade ratings to sub-prime junk all of 2007?

    They are a bunch of f*cking jokers and should be thrown out in the street to find more productive work, like shoe-shining.
     
    #15     Jan 11, 2008
  6. toc

    toc

    Throwing Iraq war out of the equation.............first thing US has to do is to balance its $500B odd COMBINED deficits of all sorts.

    Then only seek another $270B from somewhere.................to finance the 9T debt which at even 3% annually amounts to $270B.

    So basically it is nearly $1T from 'cuts or revenues' is needed to make any accounting sense.............economic sense creeps fraud, deception and deciet of the common people and long term interests. I guess economics is one art where by convincing arguments can be made for each side of the problem.
     
    #16     Jan 11, 2008
  7. maxpi

    maxpi

    Higher taxes and idealism will raise the US credit rating.... LOL... and quality from Asia means China?? LOL, they don't know what that is, try eating at a Chinese restaurant in the US where we have "quality control"...... LOL... and cut loose some criminals... oh yeah, and no-profit businesses are going to thrive.......you're presumably allowed to vote or do they let you out on those days?
     
    #17     Jan 11, 2008
  8. danoXP

    danoXP

    If Moody's traded or put their money behind their ratings they would have gone under in 2007.

    2 Year Treasuries are market priced at 2.51%. Is there any paper on the planet higher rated than that? At 5.5% they would still be AAA.

    Maybe in the 1980s when they were trading at over 15% they should have cut their rating?

    Am i missing something?
     
    #18     Jan 12, 2008

  9. you might want to check that again. just because the govt pays for the healthcare doesn't mean the care is better.
     
    #19     Jan 12, 2008
  10. Millions of people work from the military system, result: unemployment.
    Export what? Pornography? Drug addicts? Pensioned retirees?
    Shift jobs from the USA to Europe? To start with, europeans dont want to work at all.
    Green energies would be another dotcom bubble, they make money off investors, not money TO the investors.
    More unemployment in the USA.
    Again more and more unemployment.
    And there will be no investment in new oil fields; so, in a few years, oil will get to $200 because of severe production shortages.
     
    #20     Jan 12, 2008