US's birth rate felt and dodo birds in bow ties thinks immigration is the solution

Discussion in 'Economics' started by JSOP, Jul 19, 2021.

  1. JSOP

    JSOP

    https://businesshala.com/the-birthr...migration-may-be-the-solution-say-economists/

    And the reason why they think they need more people is because:

    “We also need people innovation,” Buckles said. “We need people who are going to invent things and cure diseases and produce art and all these things to keep the economy growing.”

    Yeah what makes you think immigrants would necessarily be the ones "inventing things, curing diseases and producing art and all those things to keep the economy growing"? What's wrong with born-in-the-America workers? Why can't they be the ones "inventing things, curing diseases and producing art and all those things to keep the economy growing"? It's not people that you need to invent things and cure diseases and produce art and all these things to keep the economy growing, it's quality people that we need that can fulfill these roles. But instead of spending to import people, why not invest in the people who are born in America? Why can't that be a solution? Instead of immigration, maybe what we need is better education to educate and produce more capable workers that can "inventing things, curing diseases and producing art and all those things to keep the economy growing" and investment in research and development to support and encourage people who are already engaged in "inventing things, curing diseases and producing art and all those things to keep the economy growing" ?? Why can't we do that? Why is that we have sacrifice existing home-grown talent in favour of bringing people from outside of the country?

    Not intending to put down immigrants, unless you are a Native Indian, we were all immigrants at one point but I just feel that time has changed to the point that today the benefit that we receive from immigration is not being justified by the cost as demonstrated by various countries in Europe that are finding out the hard way. At the same time, there are alternative solutions that are just as effective or even more effective in resolving any possible problems that could be a result of the drop in birth rate besides immigration such as improving education and developing automation and robotics. There are countries such as Japan and South Korea that have had years of negative population growth but are still thriving without resorting to immigration. And even China that is experiencing a drop in birth rate as well but is not relying on immigration to solve this "crisis" in the potential shortage of workforces predicted by these doomsday economists. If Japan and South Korea can do it without immigration, so can the United States!!
     
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  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Japan, S.Korea and now China are great at copying.

    Americans (born and raised as well as new arrivals) innovate. Always have.

    "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
     
  3. Birthrate fell....

    1. The cost of raising a child is waaaaaay high.

    2. Conscientious parents think it cruel to bring children into this SHIT WORLD!
     
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  4. JSOP

    JSOP

    Building and operating robots would be still way cheaper and with lot higher returns than immigration
     
  5. Specterx

    Specterx

    Come on dude, the USA desperately need more immigrants - have you even seen how empty the country is? Just ask Zuckerberg, why I bet he hardly sees a soul between stepping on his private jet at SFO and stepping off the helicopter at his Hawaii seaside ranch.
     
  6. destriero

    destriero

    It felt? You Sir, have the boorishness of a Yalie.
     
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  7. Unfettered immigration has never been the solution to ANYTHING... yet rather a HUGE source of problems. (The native Americans welcomed European settlers onto N. American land.. and look what happened to THEM poor bastards!)

    France "welcomed" Muslim invaders into their country, and look how France has virtually become a Muslim country.
     
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  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    SJO is closer but the reason for immigration is not to fill in space with bodies but to have the best of the best.

    NASA Space Program, Military and all things Tech related have and will continue to benefit from doing that.

    Didn't you get the memo we got rid of the Nativist/Nationalist/Egotist late last year. Oh wait, are you one of those lol?
     
  9. DaveV

    DaveV

    Hate to burst your bubble but Americans don't really want to study those fields that produce the innovation. More than 1/2 of all STEM Phd's granted in the USA go to foreign students. And in the critical areas of Math, Physics and Computer Science the percentage is much higher.
     
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  10. %%
    Good points.
    Squanto+ Pocahantas the princess did real well, so look what happened to THEM. I got to bow hunt with a 50% Indian for years, NEVER did he whine about andrew jackson:D:D. WE went to the old school+ called them Indians like Christopher Columbus named them:caution::caution:
     
    #10     Jul 19, 2021