USO - time to go long oil

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by recession2016, Dec 22, 2015.

  1. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Been considering the same ( Likely won't risk this ), but been considering building a position to the long side, some limits basically.

    Ie Long USOil, 35.80, 35.20, 34.40, Margin call @32.50.

    IF I get filled on all 3 and get the math right to not get called before then a run back to 42.00 say, would triple my account.

    D1 wise, setting up a sideways pause channel, which way we break out, impossible to say.

    I fancy a 1 month hold to triple or seriously damage my account.
     
    #11     Dec 22, 2015
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    This is not mathematically possible even with "fuzzy math".
     
    #12     Dec 22, 2015
  3. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Spot account, so can be quite accurate on my Contract size, so yes it is!!

    just work out what contract size, the 3x's the account is a guess on a move to 42, not worked out the maths on that 1.
     
    #13     Dec 22, 2015
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    You need to spend more time on the math. The ETF's are long the curve which is steep in contango. They are not a bet on spot oil. In fact, it's conceivable they could actually drop in value on a move to 42 if the market suddenly went into backwardation.
     
    #14     Dec 22, 2015
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  5. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Sorry but what, if my spot oil price, 36 currently goes to 42 then I could lose money, that's not how it works, think your majorly over thinking this !!
     
    #15     Dec 22, 2015
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Yes sir. You better do a little more research Mr. Papa Georgio. Those oil ETF's are not long physical, they are long the forward curve which is massively steep right now. If that curve inverts, it will take more then one doctor to remove that sharp object from your backside.
     
    #16     Dec 22, 2015
  7. Investing in oil could be extremely risky, but USO looks nice, $11 before the NY, $17 - 20 in 2016.
     
    #17     Dec 23, 2015
  8. londonkid

    londonkid

    I can guarantee one thing. Many traders will lose a tonne of money trying to pick tops and bottoms. At present I think we will see a squeeze up to $40 before heading to the $20s sometime in the next 12 months.
     
    #18     Dec 23, 2015
  9. goldman sachs also said oil was going to go to $200 when it peaked in '08

    what they say is irrelevant in terms of price action
     
    #19     Dec 24, 2015
  10. How does that fit with your broader thesis of a recession in 2016, might I ask?
     
    #20     Dec 24, 2015