Using Pivots

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by Lefty62151, Jun 11, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Risk3

    Risk3

     
    #41     Jun 15, 2005

  2. Thanks for the feedback Lefty... :cool:
     
    #42     Jun 15, 2005
  3. The price later in the day took out the R pivot with a big white candle. So suppose we went long at the close of that candle. Now the natural target would be the next pivot up? But the price never reaches it. How would you manage the exit on that trade?




     
    #43     Jun 15, 2005
  4. Hi All,

    Never having given it much of my time, what would be the salient points of difference, if any, between Caramilla and pivots?
     
    #44     Jun 15, 2005
  5. Sunnyskies:

    A big white candle is an indication of momentum. This is a market that is showing strength. The weekly pivot shows support and resistance that are supposed to be active throughout the week. It is only Tuesday and you are looking at a test of R1 already. To me this all indicates strength. How you manage it depends on your conception of opportunity. Are you a swing trader? Do you hold for days or weeks. If so, this seems to be a signal to hold and perhaps add. If on the other hand you are a short term intraday trader, you may want to take profits, and wait for the inevitable retracement to get on the bus again later. There is no shortage of oppportunity in a market like the S&P, which cycles between price points. Look at the longer term charts using 30 min or 60 min charts and you can see what I mean.

    I hope this helps

    Lefty
     
    #45     Jun 15, 2005
  6. Nononsense:

    I suggest you "give it more of your time". Your a big boy. Take a moment to check it out.

    Be good.

    Lefty
     
    #46     Jun 15, 2005
  7. I am going to take a little different approach to posting charts.

    I took several "snapshots" and will comment here rather then on the chart itself.

    I bet that the gap would be closed early. As the market already knows the CPI data, which was good, but does not know the Oil data, which could move the market.

    You can see that an early entry short that the gap would close would have got you two or three points.

    "early entry" is a big deal in this market. You will see that professionals make their bets and enter "early", while the retail traders wait. This means that retail have to take bigger risk and use bigger stops. In my view, early entry means short at or below 1213. Retail traders would be waiting until about 1211.75. This is one of the reasons retail traders lose or get shaken out.

    Again we have a thin summer market, and for that reason I am using 1 point as my stop loss.
     
    #47     Jun 15, 2005
  8. Here's another chart right after the Oil Inventory Report. You can see that the result was a little worse than expected. As a result price moved down and the overall market "turned over" from a positive to negative tone.

    Light Sweet Crude now up .67 at $55.60.

    I can't show the details of my trade here, sorry. I can say that based on my expectation (probability) of a worse than expected report, I was short and again because this is a thin market, I took profit early as I expected the move to be muted.

    In this instance, price moved down to test support at S1.
     
    #48     Jun 15, 2005
  9. Hello Nonsense:

    Fact is, I have very little time on my hands. I welcome questions, they indicate your interest. But I believe a person of your intellect and experience can usually answer them himself and sometimes better than I can. :)

    Good luck in today's market
    Lefty
     
    #49     Jun 15, 2005
  10. Hello Lefty,

    Good luck to you too! :)
    nononsense

    PS: don't forget: 'Luck fights at the side of the prudent' [Euripides]
     
    #50     Jun 15, 2005
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.