This was from a military blog. Note the date of the post. http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/11/generals_of_yes.html Posted by: Brad R. Torgersen | November 18, 2005 at 07:23 PM I don't know GEN Petraeus personally...but when I was in the "Devil Brigade" folks called him "Colonel Betrayus". He came up with things like the "Devil button" (button your BDU collar up to the top when on jumps) and the "Devil grip" (special name for keeping your trigger finger out of the trigger well) which sounded hokey to most of the troops at the time. Apparently not only Admiral Fallon, but also the paratroopers are also on the same page as Moveon. Anyone here willing to defend the "a**-kissing little chicken-sh*t" general?