US scientists ask clergy to help refute creationism

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by dave putty, Feb 20, 2006.

  1. Finally a little sanity..

    In an unexpected move, some clergy are now speaking out against intelligent design. Warren Eschbach, a retired Church of the Brethren pastor and professor at Lutheran Theological Seminary in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, helped sponsor a letter signed by more than 10,000 other clergy in favour of evolution.

    "We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests," they wrote.

    Catholic experts have also joined the movement. "The intelligent design movement belittles God. It makes God a designer, an engineer," said the Vatican Observatory's director, George Coyne, an astrophysicist who is also ordained.

    "The God of religious faith is a God of love. He did not design me.",,1713857,00.html
  2. On the other hand, I think this religion is much more tasty:
    World-famous scientist and writer Richard Dawkins also speaks out about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, "... It is just on the evidence. it certainly is not a matter of faith. I mean - if one is trying to make the case that it takes as much faith to be an atheist as to be a believer, then you would have to say that is true of anything one might postulate, not just the God of the Bible, but Thor and Wotan and Apollo and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. In all those things, you can not actually disprove, but I don't think anybody would want to say that it's a matter of faith that there is no such thing as the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The onus is on the people who want to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster to find evidence that [He] is there."
  3. peto


    I liked the analogy of 2 plane engineers.

    One designed an aircraft that could fly the Atlantic, but required the pilot/engineer to make small course adjustments along the way. The other designed a plane that safely flew the Atlantic and required no pilot.

    Many passengers felt safer in the first one, but surely the second engineer was cleverer.

    Do ID believers think God could not design something that could be left alone? (Don't ask me I'm an athiest!)
  4. I see..

    A perfect god making an imperfect universe?

    Doesn't make much sense, does it?

    (Is it even possible?)
  5. Perfection is in the eyes of beholder. :D