US on the socialist path.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by zdreg, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    No intention to argue.
     
    #91     Nov 7, 2010
  2. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    My shipment of milsurp .308 arrived this morning.

    I thought about this post while I was schleping it all into an outbuilding. Not everyone in the USA is going to cooperate. We have a long tradition here of thumbing our noses at such ideas and we mean it.

    Anyone trying to enact/enforce this stuff around here would quickly find that only thing that gets abolished is their ass.
     
    #92     Nov 7, 2010
  3. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Where did you get that anyway?
    I haven't bought any 7.62 nato in years but I've read there's not much left.
     
    #93     Nov 7, 2010
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Then what are you doing in the P&R forum? (J/K)

    Obviously many if not all of these will never happen under any administration or current political party "rule" of course.

    1)Reduce the senate to 50 senators - one per state

    2)Reduce the house to 100 representatives - 1 to 3 per state depending on population.

    3)Eliminate ALL special entitlements (retirement, health care...) for congress.

    4) eliminate secret service protection for former presidents and families, if you can't handle the risk don't run for office.

    5) Sell Air force One and replace it with a more economical corporate jet.

    6) make military service compulsory, minimum two years in a branch of your choice immediately leaving HS. NO exceptions, I don't care who your daddy is.

    7) end virtually ALL foreign aid and close most of our foreign military bases. We're protecting people who hate or disrespect us with money we cannot afford.

    8) Jail time and or exorbitant fines for employers knowingly hiring illegal immigrants. They'll pack up and go home at their own expense.

    9) Phase out SS, people should be responsible for their own retirement.

    10) end the national endowment for the arts, close the dept.'s of education and energy just for starters.

    11)end farm subsidies

    12)stop payments to the UN

    13) Leave Iraq completely and bring home most of the boys in Afghanistan. Leaving only a small contingent in a strategic location from which to operate from as needed.

    14)end long term unemployment payments and add time limits on welfare of all kinds

    15)expedite the death row appeals process. it shouldn't take a decade to execute a violent felon

    16) I'd consider legalizing some drugs even if only because what we're doing now is not working and is very expensive

    17) enact a revenue neutral simplified/flat/national sales tax of one kind or another, drastically reducing the size of the IRS in the process

    18)no increases in welfare for "poor" mothers having more than one baby, if they didn't learn their lesson the first time they're too stupid to deserve more or they're obviously abusing the system.

    19)balance the budget no matter who doesn't like it and no matter how much it hurts

    20)start making payments on the principle of the national debt

    21)voting rights only to those who pay taxes and can pass a simple civics test

    22) raise the min age for a drivers license to 18

    23) require anyone over the age of 70 to take an actual driving test every 5 years

    24) change the constitution so that supreme court justices are elected for 12 year terms

    25)Close down TSA



    I could probably add much more if I took the time but I'm sure you get the jest of my ideas for improvement.
     
    #94     Nov 7, 2010
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    Saxon, just to let you know i am in total agreement with all your well stated points above, especially paragraph two.

    When I read the posts of folks on ET exclaiming how socialist the USA is becoming, i think how naive can one be. It's obvious that the country, for better or worse, is still firmly in control of capitalists, and corporate interests come before those of the individual, though we pretend it's the other way around. It's very telling that in the U.S. we fund medical care and schools with bake sales and our armed forces with tax dollars, and approve expenditure on weapon systems that even the Secretary of defense says are not needed. We persist even though the U.S. spends nearly as much on "defense" as all the other countries of the world combined! When is the last time you heard a politician suggest cutting the "defense" budget instead of social security, medicare, or education?
     
    #95     Nov 7, 2010
  6. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    TY! A lot the things you mentioned make a lot of sense to me. But, as you mention in your 2nd paragraph the likelihood of those changes taking place are either remote or impossible. So why not simply press the government for a referendum on those matters? If both Dems & Reps are useless when it comes to making positive changes rather than the ones that increase electorate numbers, then why not try & form a true peoples' union that will press the government for a referendum? I know it may sound outrageous especially to the anti-unionists, but maybe on the case where government stops to really represent its people a union is the way to go?
     
    #96     Nov 7, 2010
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    It's not totally impossible, although the constitutionality of a nation wide referendum might ( I don't know) be an issue.

    I'd certainly join such a movement.

    It's that, revolution (of some kind) or this country IS going the way of the Roman empire.
     
    #97     Nov 7, 2010

  8. Can we abolish voice mail and Indian customer service reps?
     
    #98     Nov 7, 2010
  9. Racist oppressor...

     
    #99     Nov 7, 2010
  10. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    I can send you a pm, I'm reluctant to be more specific than saying a nice couple living in the southeast.

    The stuff is too expensive to shoot for recreation. I just keep an M1A because I'm very close to the San Andreas fault and people out here would start looting the first or second day if it was a serious quake. The bad guys here all have .223 and 7.62x39 so it made sense to go way heavier. I've heard an M-14 will really keep peoples heads down. I like the flat trajectory and incredible range. Its difficult to take shelter from .308 because it goes through cinderblocks etc. I just know I sleep a little better at night. :)

    California has always been mexico-like and a little edgy. I felt perfectly safe in Chicago by comparison. It didn't feel like it could become Somalia overnight like it does here.
     
    #100     Nov 7, 2010