Let's be honest... You are talking aboiut the ggod action of the USA and yet the only good action was Haiti and all the other actions were there to stop the democratic process... You cannot say that the intervention of the US will erase all the other attacks of the USA against democracy in many coutries.
Josh posted an article pointing a great responsibility on the shoulders of the US governement... This article is just terrible. It shows how crazy the politician can be and how their love for money and power could lead them to... they have a complete disregard for the lives of their own people when money or power is at stake... Of course, the case should be accepted by the courts and All the eyes will see if AMerica ais a real democracy... By the way?? did you know that: Before becoming President, Karzai was an advisor to Unocal. just that point creates a big doubt on the USA intents in Iraq... http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.21A.pitt.watchtower.htm Hilton's suit charges Bush and his administration with allowing the September 11th attacks to take place so as to reap political benefits from the catastrophe. Hilton alleges that Osama bin Laden is being used as a scapegoat by an administration that ignored pressing warnings of the attack and refused to round up suspected terrorists beforehand. Hilton alleges the ultimate motivation behind these acts was achieved when the Taliban were replaced by American military forces with a regime friendly to America and its oil interests in the region. Hilton's plaintiffs in this case are the families of 14 victims of 9/11, numbering 400 people nationwide. These are the same families that rallied in Washington recently to advocate for an independent investigation into the attacks. The current 9/11 hearings are being conducted by Congress behind closed doors, a situation these families find unacceptable. Egypt voiced similar warnings that same month regarding aircraft attacks. Delivered just before the G-8 summit in Genoa, Egypt's alert carried such weight that anti-aircraft batteries were placed around Columbus Airport in Italy. The Russians warned the US that same summer of 25 pilots who had been trained for suicide missions, and Putin himself delivered the warning "in the strongest possible terms" to the US government. The Israeli intelligence service Mossad delivered a warning to both the FBI and the CIA detailing "a major assault on the United States" against "a large-scale target" that was "very vulnerable." Then, there are the threads. A FEMA official told Dan Rather that the disaster agency had been at the World Trade Center on September 10th. Why? Governor Jeb Bush of Florida signed executive order #01-261 on September 7th, putting his state's National Guard on heightened alert status, essentially placing Florida under martial law for no demonstrable reason. Why? Attorney General John Ashcroft stopped flying on commercial aircraft in the weeks before 9/11, something he had commonly done since his entry into the administration. Why? Motive suddenly becomes far more clear. The Bush administration very much wanted the Unocal pipeline to go through, and put intense pressure on the Taliban to see it happen. As this was happening, American intelligence services were flooded with warnings of an impending attack upon American targets by bin Laden and Al Qaida. The decision was made - let the attack come, and in the ensuing outrage American forces can carve out the guts of the Taliban government like a ripe gourd, replacing them with a 'legitimate' regime more receptive to the pipeline plan. The Taliban were routed and replaced by an interim government headed by a man named Harmid Karzai. Karzai was recently elected President of Afghanistan in his own right, legitimizing the Afghanistan government. Soon after this, Karzai announced the impending construction of a pipeline that would exploit Turkmenistan's natural gas reserves He named Unocal as the lead company for the project. Before becoming President, Karzai was an advisor to Unocal.
Tfut : >> Abolition of slavery, Women before Islam even in christianity were considered as inferior specie and many arab or westeners killed their daughters because it was a curse for them... With Islam this was forbidden and woman had the right to inherit to educate herself even to fight.... and this was in the 7th century... >> You must be kidding on this, you are wrong on every point ! Abolition of slavery : If you reread the Koran, it considers two kind of people on earth : the Muslims and the Miscreants. Muslim slavery was forbidden, but not miscreant slavery. Guess who provided the bulk of African animists for the slave trade ?? Women and inheritance : at the time you referred to, in some parts of Europe, women could inherit in full, provided they were the first born in an offspring (same rule for men). The Koran limits the amount a woman can inherit (about 1/3, I think, cant find the appropriate haadit right now). As for the killing of daughters, I wont comment the statement, I have never heard about this. But, I would gladly quote the appropriate surat from the Koran where the way to 'properly' kill an unfaithful wife is described. Something absolutely forbidden in Christian Europe, as a matter of comparison. Islam is based on an opposition between Muslims Vs Miscreant, and Dar-el-Islam Vs Dar-el-Arb (land of Islam vs land of Infidels). Most anything positive in the Koran is only directed to Muslims. In matter of theft, it is zina(a sin) to a Muslim to steal another Muslim. But the theft of Infidels's property is encouraged. It is forbidden to rape a Muslim woman, but a Miscreant woman is considered as 'the wealth of the infidels laid there by Allah for the Muslims to appropriate'. Hence, the Koran does not condemn in anyway the rape of non-muslim women. Same thing for murder. So, TF, you should seriously think about stopping to try to bullshit everyone. Anyone can learn about Islam and get a Koran nowadays. And the 'they are fundamentalist because they are poor' is bullshit too. The 9/11 terrorist were educated men, some of them living in Europe, they were wealthy and integrated. The problem has nothing to do with economic development. OHLC, a miscreant
I am fed up with openly racist and closed mind people like you.. You are as always using a racist rhetoric to attack islam or muslim... just Stop bullshiting and telling lies... People like you are legion especially in France where apparently you come from.. People like you voted Lepen and fra right.. Using your stupid arguments... All what you said is unfounded. Please find a muslim in europe after the inquisition???? none ... All the muslims and jews were killed by christian. Whereas in muslim countries you still find today christian and jews.. Find me a muslim prime minister in europe??? none. whereas In Iraq you have a christian prime minister.. and this was the case during all muslim history.. In syria paelstine, you still have many christians, not talking about lebanon, egypt.... I won't say that everyhting was perfect but those people were not "eliminated completely or forced to change religion like in europe"... we are miles away from the barabay of europeans.. Whereas killing and infidel or stealing an infidel is completely forbidden in Islam... Omar ibn Al Khattab himself, the second Calife after Muhammad, even punished his own son because he stole the land of an old jew woman after the woman asked Omar for justice. this is a certified hadith... The Quran asks muslims to be peaceful with other people and to agress nobody unless you are aggressed.
We might recall that those Arabs of Spain were fairly tolerant of Christians and Jews, while we gave rise to the ghettoes, and that Saladin, when he reconquered Jerusalem, was more merciful to the Christians than the Christians had been to the Saracens when they took over Jerusalem
This Islam versus the West thing is one big smokescreen... the bottom line is that the whole shabbang is about the West's pursuit of other people's resources, using whatever excuse they can muster up to militarily intervene or install puppets... this is why the USA, in particular, will continue to be a target of revenge for the millions of victims of US policy... no rational person can support the September 11 revenge terrorism.... but most rational people can understand the root causes of such revenge terror... the US policymakers bear a large proportion of the responsibility for the revenge terror of September 11... but of course they will never admit it.... it is time for the cycle of terror and revenge terror to stop... it is time for a rare dose of sanity from the US policymakers....
So what is wrong with the wealthy therer doing just that investinng in the success of their peoples. Sultan's, sheiks, ultra-wealthy businessmen and a poor country populace and its our fault? I think that the sheet needs to come off of the truth there, so to speak!
I posted an article showing the implication of Bush and his accolytes and the responses I get are.. Islam is evil and Arab hate westeners.... crazy isnt it.. Like if we prefer to blind ourselves with that and don't even take into account the accusation made by families of the victims themselves to the president of the USA.. One wonders why do they want to attack. because Saddam is evil or because they hate arabs/muslim???? First they said we have proves that Iraq and el Qaida are linked that saddam is a dangerous man... blablabla Then no evidence was shown... even on the 9/11 events not everything was said... and today what the artcile posted by Josh show is just terrible... it could another scandal like the one of Nixon but much worse since 3 to 4000 people were killed.... The same week that Blair posted his crap report, nearly 500,000 person demonstarted in the streets of London. I was there and it was huge.. people from all backgounds religion and colour saying loud don't attack Irak, free palestine and we need a change in governement in the UK.... Only the people can change that mess.. Today is completely different than 1990.. CNN cannot lie to us like it did before.
The suit also seeks an unspecified amount for damages. If information is the goal shouldn't that be the motivation here? Why not ask for say $1,000,000 per person, legal fees and unlimited access to all court records and documentation about the case? As we say, a few billion in the pocket is a pretty good stimulus package.
http://www.africana.com/DailyArticles/index_19991101.htm For your information... I know that in many ghettoes where Islam is applied there is less violence drugs.... But may be this is not the image of Islam you want to see?? Founded in 1975 by a group of Puerto Rican converts, the Alianza Islamica (Islamic Alliance) was the United States' first Latino Muslim association. The Alianza's social and political engagement resembles the activism of African American Muslim groups. In the Barrio, Latino Muslims have been at the forefront of battles against gang activity, drug dealing and prostitution. The Alianza has confronted gangs and drug posses, trained young men in martial arts as community law enforcers, brokered truces between rival gangs, and mentored jailed members of the Latin Kings, a local Puerto Rican gang. The Alianza's director, Hajj Yahya Figueroa, speaks about Islam and spiritual health at prisons, explains the difference between "el Islam" and "el Farrakhanismo" at rallies, gives "sensitivity talks" to police officers, and has even addressed the United Nations.