So according to your solution, of 200,000 Fallujah residents, women and children (only) would have 24 hours to get out (to go where? guess it don't matter) then the entire city would be burned to the ground and EVERY HUMAN BEING would perish regardless of their association or lack thereof with militants. *ahem* ... When did they let you out of the maximum security prison ward for the criminally insane? to
Yup, if you are in the City after 24 hours, you are and enemy compantant. So I should have said all men can come out with their shoes off and walking backwords. Did you see how fast the shooting dried up once we hit them with the AC 130? Until these people are scared shitless of our militarys ability, they will continue to kill us
every single American soldier in Iraq is an unlawful enemy "compantant". until these people are scared shitless of the Iraqi "insurgents´" military ability, they will continue to torture and kill innocent Iraqis --- OUTRAGE AT AMERICAN TORTURE OF IRAQI PRISONERS Apr 30 2004 From Anthony Harwood, US Editor, In New York VIDEO footage of US soldiers torturing Iraqi prisoners of war horrified America yesterday. The TV stills showed a hooded captive standing on a box with wires attached to his hands, and naked prisoners stacked in a human pyramid while jeering troopers look on laughing. Six soldiers now face court martial and jail. One allegedly boasted that the captives "broke within hours". Seven others, including a general, are suspended from duty and may be disciplined. ORDEAL: Prisoner on box with wires attatched to his hands Shocked Army spokesman Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said: "I can't make excuses for this. We're appalled. These photos are dismaying." TV network CBS said the prisoners were filmed late last year at notorious Abu Ghraib jail, Saddam's former torture HQ in western Baghdad, where the US is holding 4,400 detainees. The prisoner standing on the box was told that if he fell off he would be electrocuted. One of the men in the "pyramid" had an Arab insult written in English on his skin. HUMILIATION: Soldiers grin behind the pyramid of captives Other captives were forced to pose in humiliating positions, some of them simulating sex acts, as soldiers gave the thumbs up. Army Reserve Staff Sergeant Chip, who is accused of striking detainees and ordering them to beat each other, was seen sitting on a prisoner. He allegedly boasted in an email to his family: "We had a very high rate with our styles of getting them to talk. They ended up breaking within hours." Yesterday Frederick said he would deny abuse, claiming he was not shown Geneva Convention rules on how to treat captives. VILE: Iraqi PoWs are forced to parade before their jeering captors He said: "We had no support, no training whatsoever. "I kept asking my chain of command for things like rules and regulations. It just wasn't happening." The soldiers, from the 800th Military Police Brigade, were arrested after the video images were sent to a friend who handed them to authorities. The friend told investigators: "There are some things going on at Abu Ghraib that I can't live with." Brig Gen Kimmitt said: "These pictures may reflect the actions of individuals. But, by God, it doesn't reflect my army. "If we can't hold ourselves up as an example of how to treat people with dignity and respect, we can't ask that other nations do that to our soldiers." Former Marine Lieutenant Colonel Bill Cowan warned: "We'll be paid back for this after these people are let out." BRUTAL: Woman soldier points at genitals of hooded and naked Iraqis The charges faced by the six soldiers include dereliction of duty, cruelty, maltreatment, assault and indecent acts with another person. Among the officers under investigation is 800th Brigade's commander, Brigadier General Janice Karpinski. CBS broadcast the pictures on its show 60 Minutes early yesterday. Last night they were shown on the BBC 6 O'Clock News. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...can-torture-of-iraqi-prisoners-name_page.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/
pretty bad, but you gotta to love this..."the soldiers where arrested..." Thats what makes our system the best. What other Army, especially of our might and abiltiy, would arrest their interrogaters for gettting results? The big difference between us and them is that the guy on the box would have been electructed if he fell, and if he didnt fall, he would have been pushed. And the pyramid of naked bodies? In totalitarian regimes that is a pyramid of DEAD naked bodies "stacked like cordwood" as the cliche goes. And now you have a General and other high level commanders, who where not even there, having their carreers and reputations deystroyed. Why? Because in a democratic army, it is all about accountability. If the rest of the world ran with the effiency, accountabilty and ABILITY of the U.S. Armed forces, you could bet it would be a much much better place. So go ahead and complain all you want. Talk about the US Marines getting their ass kicked when they are doing everything possible to keep innocents from being hurt and destroying perceived holy land. At the end of the day, they are doing what you never could do. Why your at it, bitch about cops dealing with shitheads all day long. Bitch about teachers teaching the offspring of the apathetic parents, and bitch your local politician trying to figure out away to keep the muni pool open. And when any of the stumble, be the first one to point it out. So keep on bitching about, because thats what makes this the best system in the world- the right to bitch and complain about the men that create and defend the system that allows you to bitch and complain without someone coming in the dark of night and pulling you from your house and shooting you in the head
Yeah, that did wonders for the public relations image of this war. Makes you think, if this is what they did on camera/video....