US is becoming a banana republic

Discussion in 'Politics' started by zdreg, Apr 16, 2008.

is the US becoming a banana republic

  1. yes within 5 years

    14 vote(s)
    26.4%
  2. yes within 15 years

    20 vote(s)
    37.7%
  3. no

    19 vote(s)
    35.8%
  1. The rulers of a banana republic are always eager to enact legislation which makes practically everyone a criminal, in order to render all of it's citizens vulnerable to selectively enforced prosecution at any time, at the whim of any gov't official with an axe to grind. Even the most harmless and benign of banana republic subjects are in constant danger of arrest and imprisonment at the hands of the black-bag squads.

    Here's the sort of thing only a banana republic would do:
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    http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6024695.html?tag=nl.e589

    <b>Annoy someone online--two years in jail?</b>

    Commentary--Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.
    It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

    In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for small favors, I guess.

    This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison.


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    What if I had good connections with the right gov't official(s), along with a complete and utter disregard for the U.S. Constitution? I'd then be able to send trolls like LoZZZer up the river at will, to be pounded like a rented gerbil every night by real criminals. Free country?
     
    #21     Jun 6, 2008
  2. client#9

    client#9


    Speaking of not being coherent, one Tradernik says he is going to ask a question and then goes onto one of his high and mighty rants. You know, the kind every community college wunderkind thinks he's entitled to. :p

    If we Americans, not phony American wannabes like Nikkie, want a better educational system, better not even think of election the NEA wet dream known as Obama.

    Elect Mccain and everything'll be alwhite.
     
    #22     Jun 6, 2008
  3. Forget about it: it will incresingly go more and more socialistic as Europe has and there's nothing any of us can do to stop it. The great majority of people have no clue about economics or basic financial principles and the great majority of people is who votes in politicians...
     
    #23     Jun 6, 2008
  4. Here's the sort of thing that happens in a banana republic:

    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2008/feb/04/a_cop_is_dead_because_an_informa

    <b>Prohibition Enforcement Goon Gives His Life To Protect Society From Japanese Maple Trees</b>

    This is one of those stories that is simultaneously so unbelievable and yet nauseatingly familiar that you just know our deeply flawed drug laws are behind it.

    Ryan Frederick is an amateur gardener who grows tomatoes and Japanese maple trees, which look like marijuana. An informant told police there was pot growing at the residence and a warrant was issued. Frederick, who had been burglarized earlier in the week, mistook the police for thieves and sought to defend his home by firing on the unexpected intruders. Police officer Jarrod Shivers was killed.

    Now, as we learned in the strikingly similar case of Cory Maye, law-enforcement does not take kindly to people defending their homes during mistaken drug raids. Ryan Frederick has been charged with first-degree murder on the theory that he knew the intruders were police and fired on them anyway.

    Frederick had no criminal record and no marijuana plants. The informant was just wrong. Although a few joints were found in the home, it just doesn’t make much sense to contend that Frederick would provoke a shoot-out with police over a misdemeanor. Nonetheless, he's being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and can only hope the jury understands the horrible situation he's been placed in.

    This is still a developing story, but at this point it seems pretty clear that the only reason this raid ever happened is that some idiot mistook Japanese Maple trees for marijuana. That's all it took. There are no safeguards built into the drug war to prevent this type of thing. If you call in a suspected marijuana grow, you are assumed to be a botanist capable of accurately identifying plants. Police will even risk their lives to investigate your idiotic claims.

    Prosecuting Ryan Frederick for murder will do nothing to curb the inevitable result of continuing to raid homes based on informant testimony. This is all just one more injustice stacked atop a precarious edifice. Like Cory Maye, Ryan Frederick is lucky to even be alive, which begs the question of how many dead innocent people would have been unfairly charged with attempted cop-murder if they'd been fortunate enough to even survive the raid.
     
    #24     Jun 6, 2008
  5. At least I'm not a fucking gutless coward who feels the need to create a new username every time he wants to flame someone, instead of acting like he had a pair and posting under the name we all know him by.

    Right, fuckwad? :)

    Right. Now go back to your porn sites and your Accutane.

    PS - if you weren't able to parse the meaning from the post and figure out on your own that the question I was asking was implied by the text I quoted, you're even more of a fucking retard than I thought....

    ...oops, wait a minute. I already thought you're as much of a retard as you could possibly be.
     
    #25     Jun 6, 2008
  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    zdreg


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    04-16-08 07:42 AM

    another characteristic of banana republics is keeping interest rates artificially low.

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    please vote on the poll
     
    #26     Sep 17, 2008
  7. zdreg

    zdreg

    the end of excess?
     
    #27     Sep 17, 2008
  8. mokwit

    mokwit

    What passes for 'economic policy' is just redirection of resources to favoured companies and industries. i.e the economy and regulatory environment is run for the sole purpose of benefitting the elites companies and industries. If the Banana Republic has an arms industry then it will start wars to favour the arms companies.
     
    #28     Sep 17, 2008

  9. you mean like McSame?

    "I fundamentally believe the market is fundamentally strong".

    Market plunges 300 points after he makes that statement.

    Markets are pricing in the nightmare scenario of a Palin/McSame win.

    Market went down 200 points the day Palin was selected.
     
    #29     Sep 17, 2008
  10. mokwit

    mokwit

    George Dufus Bush followed by McSenile. No thanks. Give me that other guy I can't stand, anything but more Republicanism.

    The average overweight propaganda swallowing moron that now comprises 51% of the electorate probably won't get his house, widescreen, SUV, boat and Lazeeboy reposessed until after the election by which time it will be too late - he will almost certainly have voted for somebody.

    Virtually all Americans used to be people you could genuinely respect. Fine values. Now look at them.
     
    #30     Sep 17, 2008