US Dictatorship: General Franks doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by TigerO, Nov 28, 2003.

  1. TigerO

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    "by John O. Edwards
    NewsMax
    November 21st, 2003


    General Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

    Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men’s lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

    In the magazine’s December edition, the former commander of the military’s Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.

    Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent.

    But Franks’ scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government."

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    www.cigaraficionado.com


    Well.

    Not if true, upstanding and patriotic citizens have their way and remove Bush and his gang of US traitors from office in 2004 and into jail, where they belong !


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  2. Did he also mention any possible candidates for the presidency of that future military government?

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  3. TigerO

    TigerO

    Nice one :D

    As an aside, not that these "little" legalities matter much any more in the lawless day and age of George W.Bush, but didn't Franks violate his army oath ?


    "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

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  4. msfe

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    FBI Intelligence Bulletin no. 89: Spying On Protestors
    by FBI Liars Wednesday November 26, 2003 03:29 AM [ignore FBI Liars] [read more FBI Liars]


    The FBI intelligence bulletin, disseminated on a weekly basis, provides law enforcement with current, relevant terrorism information developed from counterterrorism investigations and analysis. The intelligence bulletin does not contain threat warning information.

    LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE

    FBI INTELLIGENCE BULLETIN no. 89
    October 15, 2003

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    THREAT LEVEL: YELLOW (ELEVATED)

    THE FBI INTELLIGENCE BULLETIN, DISSEMINATED ON A WEEKLY BASIS,
    PROVIDES LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH CURRENT, RELEVANT TERRORISM
    INFORMATION DEVELOPED FROM COUNTERTERRORISM INVESTIGATIONS
    AND ANALYSIS. THE INTELLIGENCE BULLETIN DOES NOT CONTAIN THREAT
    WARNING INFORMATION.

    HANDLING NOTICE: Recipients are reminded that the Intelligence Bulletin is designated “Law Enforcement Sensitive” and should not be disseminated beyond law enforcement circles.

    ITEM: TACTICS USED DURING PROTESTS AND DEMONSTRATIONS

    On October 25, 2003, mass marches and rallies against the occupation is Iraq are scheduled to occur in Washington, D.C. and San Francisco, California. While the FBI possesses no information indicating that violent or terrorist activities are being planned as part of these protests, the possibility exists that elements of the activist community may attempt to engage in violent, destructive, or disruptive acts. Most protests are peaceful events; however, a number of demonstrations, including the biannual International Monetary Fund and World Bank meetings, are more likely to be violent and disruptive and to require enhanced law enforcement security. Several effective and innovative strategies are commonly used by protestors prior to, during, and after demonstrations. The following tactics have been observed by U.S. and foreign law enforcement agencies while responding to criminal activities during protests and demonstrations.

    Protestors often use the internet to recruit, raise funds, and coordinate their activities prior to demonstrations. Activists may also make use of training camps to rehearse tactics and counter-strategies for dealing with the police and to resolve any logistical issues.

    If a demonstration is going to take place in a secure facility, activists may seek to gain access to the site using false documentation. Surveillance of sites prior to demonstrations can allow activists to identify locations of command posts and law enforcement personnel in order to plan effective countermeasures.

    LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE

    Traditional demonstration tactics by which protestors draw attention to their causes include marches, banners, and forms of passive resistance such as sit-ins. Extremist elements may engage in more aggressive tactics that can include vandalism, physical harassment of delegates, trespassing, the formation of human chains or shields, makeshift barricades, devices used against mounted police units, and the use of weapons—such as projectiles and homemade bombs. Even the more peaceful techniques can create a climate of disorder, block access to a site, draw large members of police to a specific location in order to weaken security at other locations, obstruct traffic, and possibly intimidate people from attending the events being protested.

    During the course of a demonstration, activists often communicate with one another using cell phones or radios to coordinate activities or to update colleagues about ongoing events. Other types of media equipment (video cameras, photographic equipment, audio tape recorders, microphones, and computer and radio equipment) may be used for documenting potential cases of police brutality and for distribution of information over the internet.

    Extremists may be prepared to defend themselves against law enforcement officials during the course of a demonstration. Masks (gas masks, goggles, scarves, scuba masks, filter masks, and sunglasses) can serve to minimize the effects of tear gas and pepper spray as well as obscure one’s identity. Extremists may also employ shields (trash can lids, sheets of plexiglass, truck tire inner tubes, etc.) and body protection equipment (layered clothing, hard hats and helmets, sporting equipment, life jackets, etc.) to protect themselves during marches. Activists may also use intimidation techniques such as videotaping and the swarming of police officers to hinder the arrest of other demonstrators.

    After demonstrations, activists are usually reluctant to cooperate with law enforcement officials. They seldom carry any identification papers and often refuse to divulge any information about themselves or other protestors. Post-demonstration activities can include fundraising in support of the legal defense of accused protestors and demonstrations of solidarity calling for the release of the accused.

    Law enforcement agencies should be alert to these possible indicators of protest activity and report any potential illegal acts to the nearest FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force.

    ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE: LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE

    Information contained in the FBI Intelligence Bulletin is Law Enforcement Sensitive and intended for official use only. No portion of this bulletin should be released to the media, the general public or over non-secure Internet servers. Release of Law Enforcement Senstive material could adversely affect or jeopardize investigative activities.

    Departments are requested to contact the nearest FBI field office or resident agency in their area

    LAW ENFORCEMENT SENSITIVE

    Should additional information be developed related to the above matter. Questions regarding the content of these Bulletins should also be directed to the nearest FBI field office or resident agency. Specific comments or suggestions about the format or content can be provided to lesc@leo.gov.

    http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/95652.php
     
  5. According to Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl in an interview for the independant newspaper fromthewilderness terrorism is just a pretext for a planned "open world dictatorship" within 5 years :

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html

    Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D. a former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner. On November 6, he told FTW, "The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission - founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens."

     
  6. Short exerpt from the article
    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html

    "Johannes Koeppl traveled to Washington on more than one occasion. He also met with Brzezinski in the White House on more than one occasion. His other Washington contacts included Steve Larabee from the CFR, John J. McCloy, former CIA Director, economist Milton Friedman, and officials from Carter's Office of Management and Budget. He has made a direct presentation at a Bilderberger conference and he has also made numerous presentations to sub-groups of the Trilateral Commission. That was before he spoke out against them."

    Brzinski [right hand of Rockfeller at Trilateral Commission, former National Security Advisor of US gov under Carter] talks about manipulation of the american population in his geostrategic book :

    "With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and Asia, any successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a whole and be guided by a Geostrategic design." (p.197)

    "That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could eventually seek to challenge America's primacy..." (p. 198)

    "The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. (pp 24-5)" [Why does he need to refer to this : answers following ...]

    "America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being." [What does he means ]

    "Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."æ (p. 211) [Emphasis added] [What does he means once again ]

    "...To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." (p.40)
     
  7. The truth is to make Americans believe that it is for supremacy of America whereas The Trilateral Commission is an international organisation majoritarily composed of European fascists who have been using America to break third countries and faint to fight American Imperialism whereas they fomented it in background.
     
  8. Didn't see the article on that site, but I think you're being too idealistic here. If we get it hit with a couple of dirty bombs or suitcase bombs and hundreds of thousands are killed, most Americans will gladly throw away their liberties for protection. In fact, I think they will insist up on it. A huge % of Americans do not care about their liberties and this would throw them over the edge...
     
  9. IS Dr. Evil on that commission?
     
  10. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    -Benjamin Franklin
     
    #10     Nov 29, 2003