Unvaccinated people are "variant factories"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 3, 2021.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    Per the CDC, you ET trolls need your booster 3rd vaccine doses now. Come and get it. They just approved it. It is free now but, they may make you ET troll assclowns pay for it as a Big Pharma executive said the booster shots will be expensive. Whatever that means.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-just-ok-ed-booster-035528204.html
     
    #61     Aug 13, 2021
  2. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    That is not nonsense.

    There are numerous studies that demonstrate that.

    I have already posted a study. Please go read it and educate yourself.
     
    #62     Aug 13, 2021
  3. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...booster-shots-says-one-hopefully-suffice.html

    Dr. Fauci warns Americans may face having booster shots INDEFINITELY and says fully-vaccinated 'breakthrough' infections could still cause long COVID: FDA approves third dose for those with weakened immune systems
     
    #63     Aug 13, 2021
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There is no mainstream study that demonstrates an issue with COVID vaccines generating variants. ADE is not a problem -- all of this is just nonsense being pushed by the anti-vax extremists.

    In fact all the studies have demonstrated that those who are severely ill with COVID generate the huge majority of the variants. Well over 99% of the vaccinated never get severely ill -- thus they are not generating variants.

    And yes, I have posted plenty of studies and information from respected sources demonstrating this.
     
    #64     Aug 13, 2021
  5. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    There are numerous studies with numerous different vaccines and viruses. The studies results are applicable to vaccines and viruses. This has nothing to do with ADE. There is no need for a Covid specific study. Besides that, it is literally common sense. If there is a highly virulent virus and you keep in alive in the host for an extended period of time that give it the chance to mutate. It is the perfect recipe for mutation of an extremely infectious and virulent virus.

    Even if the 99% is accurate, the above statement is patently false. Anyone of the 1% can be the source of a mutated virus. So, the above statement is retarded.
     
    #65     Aug 13, 2021
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again... let's make it clear -- it is the severely ill that generate vast majority (over 99%) of the mutated, variant viruses. Go read the research from many respected sources on this.

    The longer and more severely ill a host is -- then the more likely they will generate a variant. Those with a mild case rarely generate variants.

    This is the actually science as opposed to the bullshiat floating around on social media.

    Unvaccinated people are "variant factories," infectious diseases expert says
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/03/health/unvaccinated-variant-factories/index.html

    Unvaccinated People Are Increasing the Chances for More Coronavirus Variants — Here’s How
    https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how
    • Experts say the number of unvaccinated people in the United States is a key reason coronavirus variants are emerging.
    • They explain that the virus replicates quicker in unvaccinated people, increasing the chance of mutations.
    • They’re concerned that new COVID-19 cases will continue to rise as variants spread and people still refuse to get vaccinated.
     
    #66     Aug 13, 2021
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    But he's using his thick crayon and colors so he gets a blue ribbon.
     
    #67     Aug 13, 2021
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  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    This is common knowledge in any Immunology, Virology, Genetics or Infectious Disease college classroom...100, 200 and 300 level classes.
    • Simply, viruses need a low vaccination region (community) or high drug therapy usage to birth a mutation (variant).
    In fact, look at the timeline of these variants of Covid and their locations of birth. They occurred in locations that had low vaccination rates at the time of the birth of these variants or there was high therapeutic drug use in the same community.
    • For example, the Delta Variant was born in India in an area that had a low vaccination rate and high therapeutic drug use against Covid.
    It's rare...extremely rare for a vaccinated person to birth a virus variant because the proteins needed by a virus are extremely difficult to replicate (translate) into the virus that often energizes other virus particles in a person's body that lay quietly in a person's body waiting for a leader (mutant) to show up to lead them into battle against the person's immune system.

    Another way to look at this...drug therapies are preferred by a virus over vaccines if it wants to enhance its ability to survive in its host and lead an attack on the host immune system.

    In addition, viruses just don't replicate well in a vaccinated host. It's the reason why an infected vaccinated person (breakthrough infection) will have a very low viral load and/or weaken virus as if they were not even there...greatly minimizing the chance for hospitalization and death.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #69     Aug 13, 2021
  10. smallfil

    smallfil

    It is quite possible a fully vaccinated person can get the Corona Virus delta variant for example. He or she is asymptomatic, so feels fine. Goes to the gym, goes to the grocery store, watches a movie in a theater, goes to the mall. Guess how many people will he or she infect? Chances are good, the Corona Virus he or she got from someone else, will be transferred to more and more people. And extreme liberal idiots, including, our ET trolls, still cannot figure it out?
     
    #70     Aug 13, 2021
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