Unvaccinated people are "variant factories"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 3, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You hopefully realize that a 42% effectiveness for infection transmission still implies a Covid breakthrough infection rate of under 3%.
     
    #31     Aug 11, 2021
  2. jem

    jem

    And what will it be next month show regarding efficacy without another shot?

    Your team can no longer argue anything truthfully without longer term data. The variants the vaccinated produce could be an unquantifiable risk.

    I know people like buy1 were warning you about a partially effective vaccine in the middle of the pandemic...I know your are not dumb...you are a nazi like propagandist....so you realize..we are entering a serious inflection point...all hell could be unleashed out of the vaccinated variant factories....

    I pray that they have not messed up the future for the previously healthy immune systems. And that your team will not produce an unnatural variant that just let's futerure variants bypass out natural immune systems...

    I am not predicting anything...just hoping you morons...will stop this forced vaccination ignorance til we have sufficient data and time.

    Especially for healthy young people.
     
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    #32     Aug 11, 2021
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  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Stop the fear-mongering without putting Covid Vaccines in their proper context because each of us should be able to sit down and do a proper risk assessment of our personal situation to determine if the Benefits greatly outweigh the Risks.

    With that said, regardless of the Covid Vaccine, FLU Vaccine, Chickenpox Vaccine, or any other type of vaccine...people need to use common sense prior to any vaccination but many have forgotten their common sense prior to taking the Covid Vaccine because it's new or maybe because it's a different type of Pandemic.
    • My point, there is a small percentage of people not suitable for vaccination. Too many people are blindly getting the Covid vaccination without seeing their family Doctor.
    In fact, too many people are sitting down and answering a few simple questions about their health status by people not able to connect the dots about someone not suitable for vaccination.

    1) Get a complete physical. Very important because 1/3 of the population that think they're healthy individuals...really are not because they have an underlying medical condition.

    2) Get full blood chemistry tests that include urine/feces examinations.

    To me personally, I see so many problem areas with the Covid vaccination in the world because too much of it involves people getting the jab when they should not or they're getting vaccinated with the wrong vaccine.

    As a former athlete on the national level...the above was routine medical exams every year for many years and I'm ex-military. Thus, vaccinations are routine to me especially because of the fact I grew up in a military family in which some years we lived abroad in other countries.

    In the fall of 2016, I became very ill from an infection in which it almost killed me. Just as bad, I had a few adverse severe reactions to medication that was given to me while I was in a coma...the adverse reaction (allergic reaction) almost killed me too. In fact, by end of 2016, 3 million people were killed by that illness...pneumonia. I had the worst...sepsis pneumonia.
    • I saw death twice.
    I recover from that life/death ordeal but every year...I made damn sure I had the complete medical examinations even in the Pandemic year of 2020. Now it's 2021...again I had those medical examinations prior to any Covid vaccination...

    My Doctor (damn good Doctor) tells me I'm not suitable for the AstraZeneca and the J&J vaccine because they contain an ingredient that was used in my medical treatment in 2016 that almost killed me.
    • He then gave me a shortlist of suitable vaccines (there were only two) and I decided to take the Moderna vaccine.
    I was then vaccinated by my Doctor that knows my complete medical history since 2010 including being the Doctor that recognizes I was not suitable for two particular vaccines.

    The above medical exams were repeated for my teenagers too... to ensure that they were suitable for Covid vaccination. They too are now fully vaccinated.

    My point is, had I gone blindly to one of those vaccination sites and answer a few simple questions by someone about to give me a vaccine jab that truly is clueless about my medical history...
    • I could be someone right now warning the forum about vaccines or someone that didn't survive the 3rd encounter with death.
    Once again, don't take any vaccines blindly without first having complete medical exams that include blood chemistry work instead of only following messages posted online by anonymous people.

    Further, if possible, avoid getting the jab by someone that's not familiar with your medical history. The above is my only dislike/concern with the global vaccination of the population...too many people blindly getting the Covid vaccine and some of them are not suitable for vaccination.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #33     Aug 12, 2021
  4. smallfil

    smallfil

    Don't you find it strange that this huge explosion in Corona Virus cases started as more and more people got vaccinated? Could it be that vaccinated people are spreading the Corona Virus? Now, think about it, seriously. Vaccinated people can spread the various without being seriously ill. So, if you have a lot of vaccinated but, asymptomatic Corona Virus infected people, going around even with masks, spreading maybe, trillions of Corona Virus particles all over? All the time, CDC and other extreme liberal doctor hacks asking for 3rd and 4th booster vaccine shots to be given. Oh, drug companies said the 3rd and 4th booster shots are going to be expensive. Ka Ching!!!
     
    #34     Aug 12, 2021
  5. Get some help JEM/Smalfil!
     
    #35     Aug 12, 2021
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Smallfil doesn't understand that here in North America the "huge explosion of Covid" are occurring in areas of "low vaccination" as in people not vaccinated.

    Also, he does not understand that there's a new type of Covid called Delta Variant that's deadlier and spreads easier. Worst, it's attacking younger adults and children while we have several Covidiot governors (e.g. Abbott, Desantis) banning face mask wear in schools that these children will soon be in class over the next few weeks.

    These variants are spawn from areas of low vaccination and/or areas of high use of miracle drugs.

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    wrbtrader
     
    #36     Aug 12, 2021
  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Gnus just sees numbers he likes or does not like and his fantasies do the rest.

    Delta is a problem as (according to Chinese research) it produces up to 1260 times more virus (a faster replication rate, a reduced incubation period, and greater viral shedding) makes super spreaders very super indeed vs original.

    This increases incoulum / viral load at infection which I was bleating about around May 2020 when the boys though a couple of viruses anywhere were all it took and posting various mask memes.
     
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    #37     Aug 12, 2021
  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    https://fb.watch/7kTtwvG_3R/

    Ron Pearlman is not happy about fund raising murderer Ron deSantis.

    Well put you will agree. "Life matters to me as much as liberty and freedom".
     
    #38     Aug 12, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Once again, let's take a look at recent data from the U.S.

    "As of Aug. 2, more than 164 million people in the United States were fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the CDC. Fewer than 0.001% of those individuals — 1,507 people — died and fewer than 0.005% — 7,101 people — were hospitalized with Covid-19."


    More Than 99.99% of Vaccinated Americans Have Not Died or Been Hospitalized From Covid: CDC
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/over-...rom-death-and-hospitalization-from-covid-cdc/

    The latest data from the CDC regarding the Covid-19 vaccines is extremely positive for two key factors: protection against death and hospitalization. In fact, the numbers show that for fully-vaccinated Americans, more than 99.99% of them “have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death.”

    The promising data comes from a CNN analysis of the information collected by the CDC, and the exact figures illustrate exactly how broad the protection have proven to be from the three vaccines approved for emergency use by the FDA:

    As of Aug. 2, more than 164 million people in the United States were fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the CDC. Fewer than 0.001% of those individuals — 1,507 people — died and fewer than 0.005% — 7,101 people — were hospitalized with Covid-19.


    The CDC also noted that 74% of the reported breakthrough cases — a positive case of Covid-19 in someone who was fully vaccinated — occurred in people who were at least 65 years old.

    Moreover, out of the 1,507 people who died, one in five of those were “reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19,” the CDC says.

    The report comes amid heavy media coverage of the highly contagious Delta variant of the virus, as well as concerns about other potential future variants.

    (More at above url)
     
    #39     Aug 12, 2021
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  10. jem

    jem

    It's funny how you are using the stats we used to explain covid in context and you always focused on virus spread.. saying...we must lock down. No rights for the healthy...

    Now I am explaining efficacy of vaccines are waning and the fuck that you are is telling us everything is fine with the vaccinated instead of looking at the virus spread increasing significantly in the vaccinated.
     
    #40     Aug 12, 2021