Which many scientists have told us... you would be expect future variants to become more contagious but less deadly over time. Previously the arms race was natural... now its not. By vaccinating during the pandemic we have opened an unnatural breeding ground in the vaccinated and infected high risk. Who knows how their variants will develop? ADE is a now a risk among many other problems.
complete bullshit... you are a science denying moron. your experts were quoted a while ago... Their opinions were in part predicated on the lack of breakthrough infections. Now we have the vaccinated getting infection... so ADE is a risk. It may not have appeared yet... but it is a risk. We explained that to you.. .you fucking liar. You really need to stop fucking lying about such important things.
The conditions in North America have already been created for such and the probabilities for a Variant of Concern to be born in North America is much higher than a variant from a vaccinated host. Here's something spooky to research considering @jem has called you a Nazi although @jem publicly announced he was going to leave the forum and return back in the fall. It was the Nazis (the far right) that gained power in Germany thanks to the 1918 Influenza Pandemic. ---------- Researchers from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York found that German regions with higher mortality rates from the virus had a higher vote share for the Nazi Party in the elections of 1932 and 1933. Using regional data on fatalities and historical voting figures, the study found that the share of votes won by the Nazis was higher where a greater share of the population had died during the pandemic. Around 287,000 people died of influenza in Germany between 1918 and 1920, according to the research. The study analyzed the link between death rates and other “extremist” parties, but referred to the Nazis as the “clear party of the extreme right.” While the Nazis benefited from the aftermath of the outbreak, extreme left parties, such as the Communist Party, saw their vote share decrease where the pandemic had caused more deaths.... Blickle said the vote share won by right-wing extremists was stronger in regions that had historically blamed minorities for medieval plagues, which may have led to those communities gravitating toward parties aligned with anti-minority sentiment.... Research from British thinktank the Royal United Services Institute has warned that far-right groups and individuals are exploiting the Covid-19 crisis by “promoting disinformation and conspiracy theories to enhance their anti-immigrant or anti-government agendas and attract a new range of followers.” Speaking to CNBC’s “Squawk Box Europe” in April, Tina Fordham, head of global political strategy at Avonhurst, said she was concerned that the pandemic could see a fresh emergence of support for extreme nationalist ideologies in Europe.... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/191...d-support-for-the-nazis-fed-study-claims.html ---------- The above is well-known knowledge to historians of infectious diseases and it was studied by German virologists going into the WWII. What if there's an insidious reason behind today's misinformation vaccine campaign that's being targeted to vulnerable ethnic communities to make them vaccine-hesitant in hope that there will be a rise of a new Variant of Concern born in North America from those not vaccinated. Contemplate about the above very carefully considering all (every one of them) of the Variants of Concern have risen in the fall of 2020 before the availability of Vaccines...risen in low vaccinated regions of countries that also had a widespread antiviral drug use against Covid as I documented earlier many message posts ago. Evolutionary Virology has always viewed viruses as a war mechanism. Yet, some military regimes have viewed biological warfare as a way to weaken their enemy before battle. My point is, who on the right will gain the most if the United States gives birth to a new Variant of Concern, and what other country will also benefit the most too ??? We have several conspiracy theorists at Elitetrader.com, let them argue the above especially those members from other countries that have typically run around here at ET via calling other members Anti-American, Marxists, Fascists et cetera...typical name calling by the far right with some of them not Americans. P.S. I'm not sure why economic researchers from the Federal Reserve have been researching this particular issue involving infectious diseases. It's a topic studied in Medical Ethics classes. wrbtrader
for the anti science morons... above... This article from the NIH was published in February it warned us that if vaccine antibodies wane the possibility of ADE over time remain unknown. in other words there is a risk... as I have been saying https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7943455/ Two Different Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE) Risks for SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies Current SARS-CoV-2 vaccines appear to be providing protection with high antibody titers; the possibility of ADE risks associated with waning titers of antibodies over time remains unknown. Summary Given past data on multiple SARS-CoV-1 and MERS-CoV vaccine efforts have failed due to ADE in animal models (75, 81), it is reasonable to hypothesize a similar ADE risk for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies and vaccines. ADE risks may be associated with antibody level (which can wane over time after vaccination) and also if the antibodies are derived from prior exposures to other coronaviruses. In addition, ADE with mast cells likely plays a role in MIS-C for infants and possibly older MIS-C and MIS-A patients. While expanded trophism of SARS-CoV-2 represents a possible ADE risk in the subset of COVID-19 patients with disease progression beyond the mild disease stage.
All Variants of Concern have occurred in the fall of 2020 and all occurred in regions of low vaccination rates (refer to a prior chart with the region locations in each country). As stated before, it's common knowledge that the probability of a mutation that results as a Variant of Concern is statistically much higher with a virus within a host that's not vaccinated versus a virus within a host that's vaccinated. Rank in Order from highest to lowest statistically: 1) Not Vaccinated with widespread use of Covid antiviral drug treatment in the population 2) Not Vaccinated with low use of Covid antiviral drug treatment in the population 3) Fully Vaccinated but improper immune response duration times between 1st Dosage and 2nd Dosage 4) Fully Vaccinated with proper immune response duration time between dosages Based upon the above, it's the reason why so far...all the known Variants of Concerns have occurred in the below-listed countries prior to the countries having access to vaccines. Simply, the more people that are vaccinated, it lowers the probability of a Variant of Concern being born. Vaccinated people are not the threat...the threat is those not vaccinated especially those travelling from region to region. Alpha Variant - London or Kent England Beta Variant - Nelson Mandela Bay metropolitan area of the Eastern Cape province of South Africa Gamma Variant - Amazonas of Brazil although days later detected in people of Japan that had travelled to the Amazonas in Brazil. Delta Variant - Maharashtra, India wrbtrader
Complete and utter lies. Practically every post you lie. Big Pharma Shill … wife an ‘executive’ for J&J. Please post the recent death by vaccine numbers you quoted before. Last month only 12 people worldwide had died as a direct result of the vaccine (source: GWB’s butthole). We should be up to at least 13 or 14 by now, no?
Are you stupid? The reason why no coronavirus vaccine hit the market EVER before this shitty therapeutic was PRECISELY because ADE was often a result in clinical trials. Now we get to see it happen in real time. Proud to be in the control group. Mask up - variant-tards!