University of Wisconsin students demand free tuition for black students

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Clubber Lang, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. java

    java

    They could just offer free tuition to good dancers.
     
    #11     Feb 16, 2017
  2. Has always been that way.

    The more you give people who don't "deserve*" (usually in an effort to buy their vote... but I digress), the more they BITCH that you didn't give them even more and sooner.

    *I'm of the belief that nobody deserves anything he didn't earn for himself... but that's just me.
     
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    #12     Feb 16, 2017
  3. QUOTE="java, post: 4409103, member: 494827"]They could just offer free tuition to good dancers.[/QUOTE]
    That's rayciss. However we will need some way to identify between the real blacks and fake blacks. Life is getting complicated these days. Whites are black. Men are women. Illegals are legal. Maybe we should just do away with college altogether and just give everyone a degree in whatever they want. What could possibly go wrong?
     
    #13     Feb 16, 2017
  4. java

    java

    That's rayciss. However we will need some way to identify between the real blacks and fake blacks. Life is getting complicated these days. Whites are black. Men are women. Illegals are legal. Maybe we should just do away with college altogether and just give everyone a degree in whatever they want. What could possibly go wrong?[/QUOTE]
    It would be a heck of a lot cheaper just to give them a degree than a $250k education.
     
    #14     Feb 16, 2017
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    You've made an understandable error. The phrase ",,, at the school,,," is missing from the statement. The person being paraphrased or quoted was most likely referring to national statistics. If it is national statistics, we must remember that those statistics will include some majority black colleges and universities, as well as schools like the University of Wisconsin where black enrollment is 2%.

    The data that everyone should be looking at is whether there is a statistically low percent of black students relative to the percent of college age blacks in the State. On that basis. U of Wisconsin might have a statistically high percent of blacks enrolled. If the percent of college aged Wisconsinites that is black reflects the general population, i.e., 6.6%, then attaining a 2% black enrollment from a State population of college age potential students that is only 6.6% black would appear to be rather reasonable.
     
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    #15     Feb 16, 2017
  6. Vertex

    Vertex


    I made no mistake, what I posted was a direct copy/paste from the article. The article appears to have been edited since it was first posted. In fact, the dateline on the article is now several hours after my post.

    Perhaps you should send the reporter a note to more carefully avoid fake news.
     
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    #16     Feb 16, 2017
  7. Chinese graduate student Yuhong Zhu said the resolution is awkward and he'd rather see more scholarships than a blanket offer of free access.

    "I wouldn't appreciate if the school offered me free tuition just because I'm a minority," he said. "We should at least have to work hard for it."

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    What a great point and then, oh boy, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, I was about to go full stereotype and suggest that Mr. Zhu probably rarely ever sees one of Those People around his part of campus thinking he's probably in the math/engineering field. And then I googled him and, oh boy, English Dept. WTF Engrish?!?!
     
    #17     Feb 16, 2017
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  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    It is a simple mistake, i'm sure. And apparently they have corrected it. I will give you my personnel assurance the Black enrollment at the U. of Wisconsin is no where near 15%. So if that was stated in the original article, then it is understandable that readers would be misled. The article as it stands now is correct with respect to statistics of the Black enrollment. It is about 2% at the u. of Wisconsin, which is low compared to schools in the deep South for Example. If you wanted a fair comparison, I'd look at the enrollment figure for The University of Iowa, or perhaps the University of Colorado, both schools with comparable high admission standards in States with relatively low Black populations.
     
    #18     Feb 17, 2017
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    I'm impressed with your due diligence!
     
    #19     Feb 17, 2017
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The amusing part of this situation is that when they have offered all individuals of a particular minority in the past free university education at a college -- it has always led to a decline in enrollment of that minority at the school.

    The reason for this is clear when the university gets down to the actual math regarding the cost of free education for a particular minority the admissions department gets a lot more picky about who is a qualified minority applicant and the number (and percentage) of those selected for admission of that minority drop. This is compared to the prior (existing) situation where most universities offered preferences to minority candidates which leads to less qualified candidates being admitted from the particular minority -- with the hope that the campus environment will enable them to improve academically.
     
    #20     Feb 17, 2017