Universal health care sucks!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by DirkDigler, May 20, 2009.

  1. This is gonna cost me a fortune! :)

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Consumers in the United States may have to hand over nearly $2 more for a case of beer to help provide health insurance for all.

    Details of the proposed beer tax are described in a Senate Finance Committee document that will be used to brief lawmakers Wednesday at a closed-door meeting.

    Taxes on wine and hard liquor would also go up. And there might be a new tax on soda and other sugary drinks blamed for contributing to obesity. No taxes on diet drinks, however.

    Beer taxes would go up by 48 cents a six-pack, wine taxes would rise by 49 cents per bottle, and the tax on hard liquor would increase by 40 cents per fifth. Proceeds from the new taxes would help cover an estimated 50 million uninsured Americans.

  2. Brandonf

    Brandonf ET Sponsor

    It certainly sucks to be uninsured.
  3. This can't be true. Obama said that people who made less than $250,000 a year would not pay any new taxes. Really, he said it. Its true.
  4. Mr. Obama is basing the $ 250,000 figure based upon the projected value of the USD in budget cycle 2011 which would be equal to a 2009 USD value of $ 25,000.

    So, Mr. Obama remains true to his word......nothing to see here...move along....
  5. dsq


    Dont worry it sucks to be insured as well.
    Currently my ins is trying to weasel out of a co pay for a doctors visit!Yes they are quibbling over 70$ trying to say my malady was pre existing!Not only will they try to deny on big payments but on chintzy little ones.Truly a criminal racket.There is no healthcare here just a business.
    BTW,50% of all bankruptcies here are due to medical bills.But the best part of that is that 75% of those medical bankruptcies are filed by people who HAVE insurance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I cant wait for universal,socialized healthcare.Anything is better than this scam.Were the only industrialized country that doesnt take care of its people.No wonder we rank 38th for health.Just above slovenia!!!!
  6. I've lived long-term in 2 countries with nationalilzed health systems - on is a 'third world' country and one is 'first world.'

    US health care, as delivered, is absolute crap compared to both. How Americans can remain so complacent and ignorant is astounding. So many well-funded, vested interests in the status quo will fight to continue milking Americans as long as conceivably possible.
  7. So you would prefer to pay minimally 10x more than what you are complaining about with universal healthcare then deal with the insurance companies?

    You just wait until you have to start dealing with the incompetant idiots who work for the gov't run system. You will be begging for private insurance back.

  8. Obama has said he remembers sitting at his grandmother's hospital bedside. listening to her on the phone as her insurance provider tried to gamer her out if its obligations.

    Our healthcare industrial complex needs to be completely burned to the ground and rebuilt from the ground up. I'm hoping, but not hopeful, that Obama can get it done.
  9. We have medicare now and that works fine. We need free healthcare for everyone paid for by taxes, which I think would be cheaper than paying premiums to an insurance company. Companies would be able to pay their workers more, since they wouldn't be paying health insurance premiums to insurance companies for their employees and families.

    I called up ehealthinsurance, and they said that you wouldn't be able to get private insurance if you have cancer, aids, or diabetes. You would have to go into some high risk state plan that costs alot more. The health insurance companies are a racket, where they insure the healthy and don't insure the unhealthy, unless you are in a group plan, but then the company pays a higher rate for all of its employees, if there are a few unhealthy people that work for the company.

    Watch the movie Sicko, if you haven't seen it already.
  10. Its certainly going to suck when the government rations healthcare to overcome budget shortfalls.

    Ohhh, I know, thats never going to happen because they are going to model universal health care on social security and social security is a well run program.
    #10     May 21, 2009