Unemployment Bennies Ran Out? File For Disability Payments

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. pspr


    The New York Post reported Sunday that as unemployment checks run out, many jobless are trying to gain government benefits by declaring themselves unhealthy.

    More than 10.5 million people -- about 5.3 percent of the population aged 25 and 64 -- received disability checks in January from the federal government, the Post wrote, a 18 percent jump from before the recession.

    Among those claiming disability, 43 percent are asking for benefits because of mental illness, the Post wrote. A growing number of those people are older, former white-collar workers.

    Disability claims come from the Social Security Trust Fund, which is set to go broke in 2018. Congress last week agreed to dip into the revenue stream to give a 2-percentage point tax break to working Americans.

    The Post noted that the more people file for disability claims, the better for the unemployment picture since those people are removed from the jobless rolls.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nefits-run-out/?test=latestnews#ixzz1mqutUOCg
  2. Lucrum


    The die hard Obama supporters, of course.
  3. We have a problem here.

    If you're unemployed you are losing 'credits".

    If you happen to get a genuine disability after a few years of unemployment, you won't have enough work credits to collect.

    People are going to get screwed out of SSD benefits through no fault of their own.

    "File early and file often". :D
  4. pspr


    And vote for the Entitlement Party --- opps, I mean the Democrat Party.
  5. Ricter


    "Moochers Against Welfare
    Published: February 16, 2012

    "First, Atlas shrugged. Then he scratched his head in puzzlement.

    "Modern Republicans are very, very conservative; you might even (if you were Mitt Romney) say, severely conservative. Political scientists who use Congressional votes to measure such things find that the current G.O.P. majority is the most conservative since 1879, which is as far back as their estimates go.

    "And what these severe conservatives hate, above all, is reliance on government programs. Rick Santorum declares that President Obama is getting America hooked on “the narcotic of dependency.” Mr. Romney warns that government programs “foster passivity and sloth.” Representative Paul Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, requires that staffers read Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged,” in which heroic capitalists struggle against the “moochers” trying to steal their totally deserved wealth, a struggle the heroes win by withdrawing their productive effort and giving interminable speeches.

    "Many readers of The Times were, therefore, surprised to learn, from an excellent article published last weekend, that the regions of America most hooked on Mr. Santorum’s narcotic — the regions in which government programs account for the largest share of personal income — are precisely the regions electing those severe conservatives. Wasn’t Red America supposed to be the land of traditional values, where people don’t eat Thai food and don’t rely on handouts?

    "The article made its case with maps showing the distribution of dependency, but you get the same story from a more formal comparison. Aaron Carroll of Indiana University tells us that in 2010, residents of the 10 states Gallup ranks as “most conservative” received 21.2 percent of their income in government transfers, while the number for the 10 most liberal states was only 17.1 percent.

    "Now, there’s no mystery about red-state reliance on government programs. These states are relatively poor, which means both that people have fewer sources of income other than safety-net programs and that more of them qualify for “means-tested” programs such as Medicaid.

    "By the way, the same logic explains why there has been a jump in dependency since 2008. Contrary to what Mr. Santorum and Mr. Romney suggest, Mr. Obama has not radically expanded the safety net. Rather, the dire state of the economy has reduced incomes and made more people eligible for benefits, especially unemployment benefits. Basically, the safety net is the same, but more people are falling into it.

    "But why do regions that rely on the safety net elect politicians who want to tear it down? I’ve seen three main explanations.

    "First, there is Thomas Frank’s thesis in his book “What’s the Matter With Kansas?”: working-class Americans are induced to vote against their own interests by the G.O.P.’s exploitation of social issues. And it’s true that, for example, Americans who regularly attend church are much more likely to vote Republican, at any given level of income, than those who don’t.

    "Still, as Columbia University’s Andrew Gelman points out, the really striking red-blue voting divide is among the affluent: High-income residents of red states are overwhelmingly Republican; high-income residents of blue states only mildly more Republican than their poorer neighbors. Like Mr. Frank, Mr. Gelman invokes social issues, but in the opposite direction. Affluent voters in the Northeast tend to be social liberals who would benefit from tax cuts but are repelled by things like the G.O.P.’s war on contraception.

    "Finally, Cornell University’s Suzanne Mettler points out that many beneficiaries of government programs seem confused about their own place in the system. She tells us that 44 percent of Social Security recipients, 43 percent of those receiving unemployment benefits, and 40 percent of those on Medicare say that they “have not used a government program.”

    "Presumably, then, voters imagine that pledges to slash government spending mean cutting programs for the idle poor, not things they themselves count on. And this is a confusion politicians deliberately encourage. For example, when Mr. Romney responded to the new Obama budget, he condemned Mr. Obama for not taking on entitlement spending — and, in the very next breath, attacked him for cutting Medicare.

    "The truth, of course, is that the vast bulk of entitlement spending goes to the elderly, the disabled, and working families, so any significant cuts would have to fall largely on people who believe that they don’t use any government program.

    "The message I take from all this is that pundits who describe America as a fundamentally conservative country are wrong. Yes, voters sent some severe conservatives to Washington. But those voters would be both shocked and angry if such politicians actually imposed their small-government agenda. "

  6. Lucrum


    I wouldn't.
  7. I think Krugman had a similar response to Heritage but this guy does a pretty good job: Heritage Foundation is wrong about welfare state

    Limbaugh has proclaimed that Social Security is a welfare program for bottom feeders. This is how the right wing is going to try and get rid of the entitlement programs, by declaring them a form of welfare.
  8. And of course the knee jerk response from republicans is that they must all be bums. Let's clean up the trillions spent on corporate welfare and then we'll take a look at the comparative pennies spent helping those in need due to the Wall Street casino blowing up.
  9. Realistically, the economy was on life support following the "dot.com" blow-up. Greenspan simply targeted real estate to generate another bubble that, in hindsight, created millions of "temp jobs". Perpetually blowing asset bubbles plays right into the hands of the corps that benefit via cheap financing and over-valued share prices.

    So in a roundabout way, I agree it's time to end crony capitalism AND clean up the fraud that exists in the social welfare programs.
  10. I seriously doubt that Limbaugh would say that, my guess is, you are lying .
    #10     Feb 20, 2012