Undocumented Immigrants - What Is a Good Number to Bring In Annually to the USA? Why?

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    #31     Jun 17, 2021
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    Anybody get this figured out yet?
    What are those facilities for?

    Are the passengers in these flights documented migrants?
    undocumented migrants?
    human trafficked individuals?
    Where do they go from the Airport?
    If they are undocumented, how would follow up for their continued safety be tracked and enforced?

    Who is Sponsoring and Responsible for the Wellbeing of these Migrant Children? Are they even accompanied by their parents? Who will take custody and responsibility? Do they need to prove kinship or other proof of legit reason they should have custody of (un?)documented children?

    Seems pretty hazy considering the serious nature of the activity.

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    What ever happened to Laura Silsby?

    That's quite a charge below made against Ms Silsby by the 'Haitian government'.
    She must have Sued The Pants off the Haitian government for Libel or Slander or whatever innocent peopld do when Lies are Promulgated against them.

    Where is Laura Silsby now? What does she do for a living?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704533204575047720443045194

    Haitians, Parents Defend Arrested Americans
    Family of Accused Idaho Woman Says She Was Trying to Help; Children's Relatives Detail How They Sent Them Away

    By Joel Millman in Callebasse, Haiti and Jeffrey Ball in Twin Falls, Idaho
    Feb. 5, 2010 12:01 am ET
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    The Haitian government is accusing Laura Silsby and nine other American missionaries with illegally abducting 33 children, most of them from the small town of Callebasse, in the mountains south of the capital.

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    But some of the children's own families and friends here disagree. On Friday, some said they willingly handed over the children, want the Americans freed, and want them to continue with plans to have the children live in an orphanage in the Dominican Republic.

    The account from Callebasse stands in contrast to the image portrayed by the Haitian government of Ms. Silsby and the other missionaries. On Thursday, a Haitian judge charged the ten U.S. citizens with abduction and conspiracy, charges that could land them in jail for years.

    But the message from the town where 20 of the 33 children were taken is consistent with the message from Ms. Silsby's own family and friends. Adonna Sander, Ms. Silsby's mother, said Thursday night that her daughter's group had written permission from the children's parents to take them.

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    Despite the villagers' support for Ms. Silsby's efforts, their accounts of her visit revealed details that raised questions over her attempts at due diligence.

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    At least three people who agreed to send their children weren't their birth parents. Milien Brutus, 28, the brother of one nine-year-old boy, authorized passage with the Idaho group, as did Melanie Augustin, 57, who agreed to send a girl she adopted as an infant, nine-year-old Loudinie Jovene. Natanya Geffraid, a 24-year-old woman with no children of her own, signed off on sending a child to whom she said she is godmother.

    The Idaho group also promised to bring the Callebasse villagers to visit the children next year in the Dominican Republic.

    "They said we would all go in a bus together," said Ms. Augustin. She added that acquiring a Haitian passport was beyond the means of anyone in Callebasse, citing a price of 1,000 Haitian dollars, or US$125. The villagers said no one from the government had come yet to talk to them about what happened.

    On Friday night, families of the detained Americans released a statement saying they would continue to seek their relatives' release.

    The case illustrates the complexities of adopting children in a poor country with few working government institutions and a corrupt bureaucracy. Most children in Haitian orphanages aren't orphans, but have been put there by desperately poor families that hope they will be better fed and educated.

    At the same time, there are many cases of Haitian children being trafficked for forced labor or sex, and the Haitian government says it must enforce regulations for adoptions strictly to avoid such situations. It is worried that the recent earthquake will lead to more trafficking.

    Haiti has a long tradition of families handing over their children. Some villagers here considered the Jan. 28 arrival of Ms. Silsby and an Idaho church group "a miracle," and a blessing from God.

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    "I wanted my son to be another person. I didn't want him to have the life I have," said Jean Anchello Cantave, 36, who gave a 5-year-old son, Ancito, to the Americans. He loaded a second child, 3-year-old Magdaline, onto the bus, too, he said.

    "But she cried so much, I took her back," Mr. Cantave said.

    Pointing to a small square of brown earth behind his whitewashed stucco home, Mr. Cantave explained his own wealth was only what he can raise from the dirt—in this season, the carrots and cabbages he will try to sell at a nearby street market. He said he considered the chance to send two of his three children off to school no less than winning a lottery.

    "The chance to educate a child is a chance for an entire family to prosper," he said, as neighbors—many of whom also sent children with the Idaho church group—nodded in agreement. To the question, what kinds of adults might these educated children become, they shouted: "nurse," "doctor," "airplane pilot," "mechanic," "plumber" and "someone with a job in an office."

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    Ms. Silsby's family in Idaho described her as following a family tradition of missionary work helping the poor. "Laura was raised in a missionary's home and just felt the burden for mission work," her father, John Sander, said Friday, speaking in the modest building that houses his denture-making practice on a residential street in Twin Falls.

    Ms. Silsby's father said it was typical of his daughter to help out people she thought were in need. "She's always been very helpful to help people if they need a place to stay," he said.

    Steve McMullen, a longtime friend of the Sander family in Idaho, said he spoke by phone to Ms. Silsby while she was in the Dominican Republic, and that during the call she said she was in a government office registering the names of the children her group was intending to bring back into the country from Haiti.

    But the plans went awry. Sitting in his Twin Falls office, Mr. Sander shook his head. "I don't know," he said. "We better pray for a miracle."

    Write to Joel Millman at joel.millman@wsj.com and Jeffrey Ball at jeffrey.ball@wsj.com

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    • meanwhile... this operation is nicely organized.
      what is its function? throughput? how many are there?
      who funds them? who benefits?
      have you seen any of these on the six-o'clock news? . . . . .post links?
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    It's significantly less than zero.
     
    #35     Jul 25, 2021
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