Under the shadow of the Iraq war, Israel practices asassination....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ARogueTrader, Apr 17, 2004.


  1. This is getting truly hilarious.

    "Survival consciousness" is now degraded to a "mentally disturbed condition"? Those wacky Israelis! :)

    "Israel needs to justify their behavior, because the behavior requires justification."

    Well, if responding to a group that proclaims no negotiation with you is possible and that they will be satisfied with no less than the exterminating you -- and has acted on their threat -- I'd probably guess that responding in kind and exterminating them first falls within the bounds of "justification". '
     
    #41     Apr 17, 2004

  2. But what lies at the core? How do you value that impact? Feelings.
     
    #42     Apr 17, 2004

  3. Yep, time to split.

    I've seen more coherent logic on the "100% uproom to go" thread.
     
    #43     Apr 17, 2004
  4. If a woman gets married, and is beaten by her husband....

    Then leaves him, and goes to another man who beats her....

    Then leaves him, and goes to another man who beats her....

    Is she an innocent victim?

    The myth that Israel and the Israeli movement is an example of an innocent victim is just that, a myth.

    I didn't mention the Holocaust, because it is implied these days.
    That it impacts their mindset is a given, but it is not a sign of mental health to be impacted in present time by past events...especially when those events did not touch you directly.

    You see this in the typical black and white, US versus THEM, Victim versus perpetrator mode that is common among the unsophisticated.


     
    #44     Apr 17, 2004
  5. rgelite

    rgelite

    This correctly focuses on the essentials. It is also why (despite my having to weed through second-handed quotes by him via others' replies) I had the poster that darkhorse responded to on ignore within a few days of my first encounter with him.

    But I'll say again, to cast both sides as equally culpable, as if this is a "he said, she said" for which a broad brush obliterating any moral clarity is disguised itself as moral clarity is the same fundamental error of treating food and poison equally. It is the province of the dishonest or the insane. Everyone knows that food doesn't need poison; but that poison, to be accepted by any sane person, must disguise itself as food to be ingested.

    The same is true of ideas--those that nourish, those that clarify, versus those that poison, those that muddle. The latter includes those postured cleverly "above the fray" that attempt to depict food and poison as mere equivalents, mere opposite sides of the same coin (as if the "coin" was the essential), and thus deserving of the same respect or abhorrence, with no means for people who value Life to decide which.

    Such a malicious philosophy is the province of ideologically bankrupt college professors. It is the province of the Charles Mansons and the Ingrid Newkirks of the world.

    And why he and others of his ilk continue to populate my Ignore List.
     
    #45     Apr 17, 2004
  6. People in this country are dying from food filled with poisons.

    A slow, obese death no doubt, but from a nutritional perspective, death from poison none the less.

    It takes a working intellect to see what lies beneath the surface of shallow dogmatic self righteous belief systems.

     
    #46     Apr 17, 2004
  7. No, but you can create obstacles for these terrorists!
     
    #47     Apr 17, 2004

  8. darkhorse, well phrased, couldn't have used better words. My thoughts exactly, couldn't agree with you more.
     
    #48     Apr 17, 2004
  9. And that's exactly how the most absurd of ideas gain a currency in the marketplace of ideas far beyond anything they are actually worth from a 'common sense' assessment. Oh well, I'm outta here.
     
    #49     Apr 17, 2004
  10. You can disrupt a campaign of suicide bombing by killing its promoters, organizers, and its chief philosophers.

    ART wants to rub a terrorist master's cock.
     
    #50     Apr 17, 2004