Uncompromising Men

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm not trying to turn it around on you. You're the one questioning everyone's patriotism because they're not doing something. I appreciate that you've made calls and knocked on doors. That's very safe, though. But you're more active than most.
     
    #21     Nov 6, 2020
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    ---And that is a real problem---
     
    #22     Nov 6, 2020
  3. smallfil

    smallfil

    Serious issues with finding ballots at the last minute, dead people voting, people like the old lady who went to a precinct only to be told that she has cast her vote are just some of the incidents of fraud. Backdating ballots received to qualify as being valid ballots. None of it has been dealt with yet, with the Trump lawsuits. That is not counting most obvious, sign of fraud which is denying Trump poll watchers from seeing what you are doing. If you are not cheating, there is no reason to deny poll watchers from observing what the hell you are doing. This has happened in Michigan and Pennsylvania numerous times.
     
    #23     Nov 6, 2020
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  4. Wallet

    Wallet

    I believe the ability to accurately audit a recount is lost. It’s my understanding that once a ballot is accepted it’s anonymous, there are no identifying markers on the ballot itself. If it’s a mail-in, the sleeve or envelope has that time stamp and voter info. So once the sleeve/envelope is separated from the ballot, there’s no way to see how any person actually voted and it’s my understanding that those sleeves/envelopes are not being kept.

    How can a precinct have over 100% voter participation. I read two precincts in Wisconsin had over 200%?

    Saying people are being blocked from the ballot counters is a false narrative. There needs to be open access to the ballot authentication process.

    If Biden has the votes, he won. But in all fairness to the people of this country, the counting process needs to be so above reproach that it would eliminate the doubt from both parties - that is something we do not possess at this moment. Specially in light of the numerous inconsistencies and irregularities we are seeing in the count.
     
    #24     Nov 6, 2020
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  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    This is exactly my point. Folks like Here4Money will ask for proof (never mind that they won't accept any no matter what) but no one can give a valid reason as to why monitors from the republican party were not allowed to oversee the counting, but the DNC monitors were. Then, after getting a court order, they still refused.

    Try as I might, I cannot think of any good reason for this.

    So we'll have another 4 years with one half of the country thinking the election was illegitimate, there won't be healing, and next election it'll be total chaos - again. This is what we've consigned ourselves to.
     
    #25     Nov 6, 2020
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  6. smallfil

    smallfil

    Unless, they clean it up by removing all ballots voted in by dead people, illegals, without matching signatures, ballots received after the deadlines, allow ballots to be inspected by Republicans for signs of fraud, etc. They can proclaim Joe Biden the winner and this is even worst than Gore vs Bush because there was little if any fraud in that election. This is a stain on the US and makes us the laughing stock of the whole world. I will never accept Joe Biden as a legitimate US President. Just because a ballot has been cast, does not make it a "valid" vote. That is why you have to examine the ballots and make sure that rules are followed to the letter to make sure cheating is minimized to the extent possible. Again, nobody of the extreme liberals has explained why denying Trump poll workers from properly observing the vote counts to be justified and should even be tolerated. You only support the allegations of cheating when you act like you have something to hide. All "valid" votes should be counted, any other votes which was cast illegally and against election law should be thrown out. And no ifs and buts about it.
     
    #26     Nov 6, 2020
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  7. People with any shred of intelligence will never ever trust the system we have in place as of today. The entire polling system needs to be overhauled. The election process itself is too easily manipulated and in close elections that matters, it matters alot. Fraud doesn't have to be widespread to swing a close election.
    All this shows me is that we are descending more and more to third world government. The economy is being wrecked purposely. The media, the entire media activity engages in a broad campaign of misinformation. Best we can hope for now is universal basic income so you can buy your legal drug of choice which will keep you comfortably numb while they rape you of every freedom you ever had.
    You poor fuckers under 40 are going to live in a sewer. Oh I know, you'll be one of the elites to escape the madness. Got some news for you, that's a small club and if you're reading this, you ain't in it.
     
    #27     Nov 6, 2020
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  8. smallfil

    smallfil

    If the Socialists and Communists think they will be in heaven, think again. Apparently, they have not heard of purges that happen in Socialist and Communist states. Stalin and Mao killed millions during their times. The handful of elites will not share their powers with you and would easily, put you down like a rabid animal if it suits them. For all the talk of fascism by extreme liberals, they do not see the vicious fascism in the Democrat Party. It is only a matter of time before they eat each other. There are not enough places at the table to accomodate everyone.
     
    #28     Nov 6, 2020
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Mail-in voting other than absentee ballots, needs to be gotten rid of. This was not to protect from Wuhan, it was to commit fraud. Ballot harvesting needs to be made illegal. Early voting needs elimination or shortened to 5 days before election.
     
    #29     Nov 6, 2020
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    In addition, I could see a scenario where the pubic votes in primaries to select nominees and then state legislatures decide Electors and send them to the College.
     
    #30     Nov 6, 2020