Uncompromising Men

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    Military has separate rules, everyone else knows the rules, lives by them. Regardless of your assumption it works fine.
     
    #121     Nov 6, 2020

  2. Yes thank you. Absentee ballots as a rule do not have to be notarized. Glad we agree.
     
    #122     Nov 6, 2020
  3. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    I'm far more relaxed and content then you are. I'm not dreaming up bs and extrapolating on it like you are. The reasonable, normal way to address an election is to sit back and let the count finish. Not start talking about widespread fraud like it's a thing based on flimsy at best evidence posted on social gossip sites. Assuming fraud is not normal behavior. Throw in the reality they haven't even finished counting yet it's just strange. Throw in that Trump pumped up people like you to expect fraud before the vote even started, it's insanity. And the cult is now predictably upset about the "fraud". Some of this we knew was coming it was all out in the open including the Supreme Court nomination.
     
    #123     Nov 6, 2020
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  4. Are you sure you are more relaxed and content than I am?

    I fell I am more willing to look at all sides of an issue, honestly answer questions that may expose the weakness of my position, provide my reasoning for my belief for all to challange, and have changed some of my positions after a challenge, such as a religeous point with a ET poster a while back.

    Although I am a Trump supporter, I admit his errors and issues. I have been critical of Trump for:

    His handling of the Covid pandemic.
    For pardoning Democrat Rod Blagojevich from his influencing peddling sentence.
    For being “Crazy” and “Unstable”.
    For running a “Scam” University.
    For seemingly needlessly harming relations with certain foreign countries.
    For harming relationships with some of his exceptional staff.
    I also admitted that Nancy Pelosi got the best of him in an interaction a while back.

    Despite the above, I support Trump for his platform, his antiwar stance, and his refusal to be supportive of fringe groups such as Antifa.

    It is important to see and respond appropriately to reality. It helps one cope and make better decisions.

    Reading your posts over the years tells me you are smart and a person of character. However, it does seem that things Trump related get you tied up in an emotional and intellectual knot.

    Speaking of reality, after watching the news briefly on someone elses TV, it does seem that Trump campaign is not being smart or efficient in their conduct concerning possible election fraud. This apparent bumbling will likely ensure Biden is elected President. A fair question might be if Trump’s team is ineffective at protecting their own interests, how likely will they be effective at protecting ours, going forward?

    On the bright side, it will be good to see you return to your former days.

    Meanwhile, I’m going to contact some people who I know to be ardent and connected Trump supporters to see what their reaction is. I will report what I find here on ET.
     
    #124     Nov 6, 2020
  5. Wallet

    Wallet

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ave-1000s-votes-biden-47-counties-compromised

    Software 'Glitch' In Michigan Erroneously Gave 1000s Of Votes To Biden; Up To 47 Counties Compromised




    "In Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates. The county clerk came forward and said 'tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the vote.' Since then, we have now discovered the 47 counties used the same software in the same capacity," she said, adding "Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots, and these counties that used the software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies."

    Of note, Trump won Antrim County in 2016 with 62% of the vote vs. 33% for Hillary Clinton.
     
    #125     Nov 6, 2020
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  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    It isn't linear.
     
    #126     Nov 6, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    What notary? I'm not suggesting anyone use a notary. All I'm saying is that a method of voting which requires no ID is less secure than one that does. But a long shot. That's all.
     
    #127     Nov 6, 2020
  8. Wallet

    Wallet

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elec...wn-104-votes-wins-by-1127-after-glitch-fixed/

    Michigan Republican, Down 104 Votes, Wins by 1,127 After ‘Glitch’ Fixed



    A Michigan Republican county official has won re-election in a race that he conceded earlier this week, thinking he lost by about 100 votes — but a fixed computer glitch has since put him back in the lead.
     
    #128     Nov 6, 2020
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  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Weren't you the guy telling us how Russian involvement caused Trump to win last time? How long were you going on about that?

    I'm going to say this one more time because apparently saying it over and over again doesn't get through, as you're all formulating your response instead of just listening to what I said (or typed).

    Voting in person with an ID is as secure as it gets. You show your ID, you vote. Boom.

    Voting by mail is no where near as secure. There's no reliable method to determine that the person who mailed the vote was the person who was entitled to vote. There just isn't. To suggest that no one commits any fraud with mail in votes is just silly. I don't know what the percentage is, and any data that talks to it is going to be based on what was found in the past. Since there hasn't been a coordinated effort to revitalize and reform the electoral process, there's no way of knowing what that true percentage is.

    But this time around, we took 33 Million more votes in the less secure way than we did last time. An unprecedented number. And there is a lot of last minute rule changes and non-transparency around a lot of the polling stations and the process.

    That's it. I don't know if Trump would have won if there wasn't any mail in or not. I don't care. He lost the election, and I'm fine with it. Honestly.

    But this wasn't a transparent election. And if Trump had won, we'd be hearing all about the disaster on how Trump manipulated this or that...blah blah blah. One side is always complaining. You guys have been complaining for four years. I think I can talk about mail in votes for a few days or so. If you don't like it, put me back on ignore and piss off.

    Sheesh.
     
    #129     Nov 6, 2020
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  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    I went through your arguments piece by piece with facts and you come back with nothing but a hot head.

    What you presented in post #1 is completely baseless and poorly sourced. The problem is that people with low intelligence and/or poor education grab on this type of stuff and treat it as gospel and that’s how we end up with Sarah Palin and Donald Trump.

    Almost everything you wrote in that first post is trash. I doubt you can prove any allegation you made it to be even slightly true. Shame on you.

    FYI this is the federal rule on fraud. Notice the part that says “must state with particularity.” Do you honestly think anything you wrote or based your writing on even remotely meets that standard?

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    #130     Nov 6, 2020
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