I'm sure this is just par for the course for trading, but wow, just wow. I enter into a trade, and arbitrarily set a random stop below my entry. You know what happens next. Some how, the market always falls as soon as buy in, hits my stop on the penny and then proceeds to go way up. What the hell ? I've seen this time and time again, and it makes me laugh. I mean really, what are the chances that I picked the exact low point to the cent. I'm not even using S/R or pivot pts. And yes, I know the market isnt out to get me, I just think its funny how it works out for a 1yr old trading newbie like myself Perhaps its the market makers , I'm not sure, but I'm considering trading without stops and only selling when I see key indicators turning against me.