UK Spreadbet firms to be investigated by the FCA

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Visaria, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. Xela

    Xela


    My pleasure. You did ask - the clue, I felt, was in the question-mark.
     
    #51     Dec 12, 2016
  2. luisHK

    luisHK

    It seems the most talented traders haven't learned much about rethorical questions, but never mind, it's a priviledge to have one of the big boys share the secret sauce on the forum. Notebook and pencil ready to jot down any more of your inspired input Xela.

    So Visaria, how would you arb a cfd/spreadbetting broker, that gives you very wide spreads or hunt your stops (you know, those disaster stops, like in "they create a disaster" ) with prices that never get there in the underlying market ?

    Not implying this happens with the large UK brokers btw, no experience to base an opinion on.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2016
    #52     Dec 13, 2016
  3. Visaria

    Visaria

    You don't. Someone said that the spreadbetting firms could give you whatever quote they liked to which i responded with the arb comment. Evidently a widening of their quote is not possible to arb. If they stop you out due to a widening of spreads, you would have to check the underlying market as to whether that actually occurred there..if not, you would have grounds for a complaint, which they do take seriously.
     
    #53     Dec 13, 2016
  4. CBC

    CBC

    From what I've read in many places online, they quickly refer customers to the famous part in the contract which says "we have the right to change or alter any trade".

    Its why they have such a bad vibe...... even on their website they say they have worked to fix the problems with their platform........ there wasn't anything wrong with their platform!! They had it setup that way.
     
    #54     Dec 13, 2016
  5. Visaria

    Visaria

    You'll have to show me where it says that in IG's (or whoever) T&Cs.
     
    #55     Dec 13, 2016
  6. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    Is this issue mostly FX related or have there been multiple instances of this occurrence in stock and futures bets?
     
    #56     Dec 13, 2016
  7. mlawson71

    mlawson71

  8. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    Trading FX via anything but futures is problematic.
     
    #58     Dec 14, 2016
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  9. the largest CFD and spreadbet provider IG have contacted customers. they have said the FCA are proposing to cut leverage to 50:1 for FX for traders who have more than 12 months 'experience'. The insane leverage available may be getting trimmed. 50:1 is still more than enough for any trader using sensible MM. my 2c.

    edit - 25:1 proposed for trades with <12 months experience. I am a big beleiber in light regulation however I think capping leverage at say 50:1 across the board is a good thing.
     
    #59     Dec 14, 2016
  10. I think it depends on the strategy. My main strategy targets taking out the bulk of the average daily range as profit and typical stop will be 1/3rd of ADR, that doesn't mean I am shit or bust, I get out when I think I am wrong. I do see evidence in price of traders playing strategies without stops, so they will average in at select points or some will just have larger puke points. In addition a lot of this comes down to size, for the guys doing nose bleed size they are often very wary of revealing a stop.
     
    #60     Dec 14, 2016