UK arms control and the fake USA crisis

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mav88, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Sounds like the amount of guns isn't the cause of the violence to begin with.
    In the way you mean, NO.
     
    #81     Aug 5, 2012
  2. BSAM

    BSAM



    So, by your reckoning, we have a problem for which there is no solution?
     
    #82     Aug 5, 2012
  3. Thanks since I cross the florida line frequently (6 miles or so) I need to be legal in both states.
     
    #83     Aug 5, 2012
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I did not say there is no solution. Violence can be reduced, it will never be eliminated. You yourself said neither extreme (though I don't agree) doesn't make any difference. An arbitrary number of guns in the compromise/middle ground range isn't going to work either. The people misusing the guns is the problem. Execute the violent offenders the first time, right after their conviction and do it publicly.
     
    #84     Aug 5, 2012
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    With an AL permit you would be.



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    #85     Aug 5, 2012
  6. thanks
     
    #86     Aug 5, 2012
  7. Mav88

    Mav88

    yes it is. an action is taken- handgun banning and confiscation, and we watch the reaction. The results are the crime stats, there isn't any other way to measure such things.

    When liberals made the law in the first place, were they not referring to the crime statisics in making their argument. After it fails you think that renders the raw data invalid and not the policy. Liberal religious fantasy at its finest.


    Wow, I'm simply quoting the gun data so you attack the professor ad hominem. If you were intellectually honest you would stop, but alas....


    I've made a conclusion based on data, that's all, it's the same conclusion as most experts. What's entertaining is your continued evasion and weak attempt at some sort of rigorous defense. So far you have said the data was wrong, the professor is dumb, etc. in other words you naysay without the slightest bit of evidence or logic in your direction.

    How about this author in the article below? is he just stupid and you, the stuffy know it all liberal, know better? btw he also called it an experiment

    http://www.gunsandcrime.org/faildxprmt.pdf


     
    #87     Aug 5, 2012
  8. Mercor

    Mercor

    Looks very similar to the current electoral estimate map
     
    #88     Aug 5, 2012
  9. Mav88

    Mav88

    I made it quite clear and directly to you, I was talking about the handgun ban in the UK in our side discussion. Now you make some irrelvenat reference to the OP? give it up, you lost.

    My opinion isn't conflicted at all, handgun control failed because culture is a stronger determinant than handgun availability.



    Data is not an assumption. Data says handgun ban failed. Data says culture is stronger than gun laws. You have not come anywhere near refuting my conclusions, you think labels are refutations.
     
    #89     Aug 5, 2012
  10. Mav88

    Mav88

    Do you know how many times this movie has played?

    For example:

    and yet we get headlines that we are at a 40 year crime low at the same time.

    It is some sort of delusional mental disorder that people believe we can change human nature and create a 0 violence utopia. The only question is how much government waste will there be in the attempt.
     
    #90     Aug 5, 2012