Uh-Oh

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Nov 5, 2019.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Here Tony, I'll beat you to it....
    "No it doesn't.... there's black people there."
     
    #71     Nov 7, 2019
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  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    :D:D:D:D
     
    #72     Nov 8, 2019
  3. elderado

    elderado

     
    #73     Nov 8, 2019
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  4. destriero

    destriero

    lol that's from votewithme. It's a joke, meaningless.
     
    #74     Nov 8, 2019
  5. elderado

    elderado

    [​IMG]
     
    #75     Nov 10, 2019

  6. And last I knew, Kentucky had quite a bit of electricity too.

    And California? I would have to check before saying.
     
    #76     Nov 10, 2019
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/trump-campaign-launching-black-outreach-effort-2020-n1078626

    Trump campaign launching black outreach effort for 2020 presidential race

    "There is a pretty tangible fear among black Americans that Trump is going to win again because black turnout won't be enough to mute the white turnout"




    WASHINGTON — During the 2016 campaign, candidate Donald Trump stood in front of largely white crowds and asked black voters to consider, "What the hell do you have to lose?"

    Four years later, the president has a new message for black voters: Look what I've delivered.

    Trump and his campaign on Friday will be launching a new "Black Voices for Trump" outreach initiative in Atlanta on Friday dedicated to "recruiting and activating Black Americans in support of President Trump," according to the campaign. Much of that effort will focus on highlighting ways that African Americans have benefited from the Trump economy, according to advisers.

    "Imagine the kind of results with four more years of winning," said senior campaign adviser Katrina Pierson.

    That prediction is met with skepticism from critics, however, given Trump's consistently dismal approval rating with black voters, who overwhelmingly disapprove of the job he's doing.

    Trump has spent much of the last four years engaged in racially charged attacks, going after minority members of Congress, claiming "no human being" would want to live in rat "infested," majority-minority Baltimore and claiming that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the deadly Charlottesville protest against white supremacists.

    "I think black Americans are not the audience for these outreach efforts," said Theodore Johnson, a senior fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice who is an expert in politics. He said the appeal appears to be more about motivating Trump's existing voter base. While Trump might be able to maintain the low level of black support he received in 2016, or perhaps expand it by one or two points, he sees little evidence the president can change many minds.

    "I think this is not going to move the needle at all," Johnson said.

    In 2016, 6% of black voters supported Trump, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of people who participated in its polls and were confirmed to have voted. There is no indication his support is growing. Polling shows that African Americans continue to be overwhelmingly negative in their assessments of the president's performance, with his approval hovering around 1 in 10 over the course of his presidency, according to Gallup.

    Indeed, in 2018, 92% of black women and 87% of black men supported Democrats in midterm congressional races, according to AP VoteCast, a survey of more than 115,000 midterm voters nationwide.

    Yet Trump's campaign dismissed the numbers, insisting the campaign has seen favorable movement and arguing the president can increase his margins with black voters by bringing new people into the fold.

    "The polls have never been favorable for Trump, and the only poll that matters is on Election Day," Pierson said.

    The campaign has launched similar coalitions for women and Latinos.

    Darrell Scott, a black Ohio pastor and a longtime supporter of the president who will be part of the new coalition and attend Friday's event, said that in 2015 and 2016, supporters trying to sell Trump to black voters could only point forward to share things they anticipated from Trump. Democrats, meanwhile, were warning that a Trump victory would be devastating for African Americans. Scott said someone once approached him at a gas station and said, not in jest, that if Trump won, "we'd all be going back to Africa."

    "Now that it's 2020, we're able to point backwards and to some very definitive accomplishments that the president has done," Scott said. "He delivered on promises he didn't even make."

    The campaign points to a list of achievements, including passage of bipartisan criminal justice reform legislation, which Trump signed into law last year, along with his ongoing support for opportunity zones in urban areas and new investments in historically black colleges.

    Advisers also point to a series of economic gains, including the fact that black unemployment hit a record low last year, with fewer blacks living in poverty. But Trump and his campaign also have a tendency to exaggerate the gains, giving Trump credit for trends that were years in the making, seizing on momentary upticks, cherry-picking favorable statistics and ignoring more troubling ones, such as black home ownership and net worth.

    Congressional Black Caucus Chairwoman Karen Bass, D-Calif., said Thursday that contrary to Trump's claims, in the three years of his presidency, African Americans have lost a lot.

    "He has never had support from African Americans, but what we know about the president is that he will lie and say that he has," said Bass, who noted that Trump rarely appears before black audiences.

    "He has to identify a handful of African Americans and take them with him wherever he goes," she said.

    If he were any other Republican incumbent who inherited declining unemployment numbers and was able to sustain them, Trump would have a legitimate case to make to black voters, said Republican strategist Shermichael Singleton. But "because of some of his racial pronouncements ... I think a significant percentage of African Americans are completely turned off."

    A September AP-NORC poll found that only roughly 3 in 10 Americans say the things Trump has done as president have been good for African Americans. And just 4% of African Americans said they think Trump's actions have had a positive impact on African Americans in general, while 81% said they think they've been bad.

    Yet even if he can't win over black voters, some suspect that's not the point. As long as the campaign can keep on-the-fence voters from casting their ballots for the eventual Democratic nominee, the campaign will be helping Trump inch closer to a second victory.

    Some analysts have pointed to a precipitous drop in black turnout in 2016 as one of the reasons Trump beat his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, who was far less popular — especially among black men —than former President Barack Obama, the nation's first black president.

    According to the U.S. Census Bureau, about 60% of non-Hispanic blacks voted in 2016, versus about 67% in 2012. And that drop was seen in cities with significant African American populations in critical swing states that helped Trump eke out a victory.

    "I do think the main objective is to discourage turnout," said Johnson. "I absolutely think this is about creating doubt in black voters' minds about the Democratic nominee" so people feel like "there's almost no one worth voting for."

    And he said that fears were growing it might work.

    "There is a pretty tangible fear among black Americans that Trump is going to win again because black turnout won't be enough to mute the white turnout," he said. "There's a sense that in 2020 he's going to win again."

     
    #77     Nov 11, 2019
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Well Tree... what now?
     
    #78     Mar 4, 2020
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    His dumbass probably still thinks Warren LOL!!!

    Warren/Durham 2020 !!!!
     
    #79     Mar 4, 2020
  10. The Comrade will want to fight on.

    Two thirds of the delegates lie ahead are still up for grabs the current delegate count- I dont know what it is- probably has Joe and Bernie have not far apart.

    I don't see a contested convention due to bloomy not being able to pilfer any votes.

    Pokey is - I will say forthrightly- not in the race for long-just hours now- just dicking around now regrouping. She knows that there is no convention to hang around for and she will just serve as a hate-object for the progressives and the Michican race is just next week and she needs to be out before then. Probably Bloomberg knocked her out more than anything. Shhe need others to keep the vote split. If she saw a scattered vote across three other candidates and a brokered convention she would ride it out. Not gonna happen.

    Joe Biden is totally incapable of campaigning and is a complete dud. What happened though is that Bernie's fight with Joe exploded into a fight with the DNC and the establishment, which have enormous powers, far beyond Joe the dud. The take down of Bernie exploded right when Joe needed it the most. Anti-commie panic and "Bernie cannot win against Trump" spread like wildfire.

    As far as what happens, as I said, two thirds of the delegates are still out there and neither one has a major lead as far as I know so Bernie will fight on. If Joe and the establishment win, then they win. But they will have to get those delegates first. Bernie is not going to say "oh jeez, Joe had a great night so I think I will drop out too." Bernie has to keep his ticker going, otherwise Pokey will reappear.

    What a mess. The dems had a love affair for a while with Biden and that collapsed when they looked him over and got tired of his 1955 personna and the mental decline. So they had a love affair with the Commie and now they have gone flaccid on his soviet-era shtick, and now they are going back seeing if maybe Joe is exciting and they just did not notice it.

    The dem establishment unloaded on Bernie. First step was to have Jim Clyburn take charge in SC.

    Gonna be some unhappy campers in dem village in November regardless of which one of the two losers they choose.

    I guess I would edit the above to say that Warren will get out when she gets out rather than soon. I don't know what analysis she is doing. She may be willing to take the heat and hang around for martyr status.
     
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    #80     Mar 4, 2020