UBS Will Fail Soon

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by ByLoSellHi, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Didnt bankers rule the world?

    All they need to do is shout and they get trillions of $ from congress and all of the sudden these banks have to follow rules and listen to the US government?

    I mean, the Swiss? Really?

    The UN has his headquarters in Switzerland, Bank for International Settlements is in Switzerland, 1/3 off all global wealth is managed in Switzerland.

    Now I don't wear no tinfoil hat but certainly it is clear we are talking about the intrests of a category of people that answer to no one...

    Masters of the Universe.


    Where does the bloody IRS get's their leverage from here...

    I wonder..
     
    #31     Feb 21, 2009
  2. dont

    dont

    #32     Feb 22, 2009
  3. This is fascinating. The UBS did release its list as you probably know:

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/banking/2009-02-22-swiss-senate-hearing_N.htm

    What I find so interesting is that our country is obviously in deep doo doo, technically speaking of course, and yet the Swiss are capitulating to our demands. The Swiss have historically been above all demands from any one government, even Hitler himself. But not this time.

    That shows desperation and when the Swiss are desperate, that's a bad sign!

    Trade accordingly...
     
    #33     Feb 22, 2009
  4. Illum

    Illum

    I think it has more to do with thier large pressacnce here than desperation. There are other secretive banks in the world that have zero fear of the IRS, but they dont have huge offices here. They opened themselves up for this and now they have no way out.

    They leaned on one American executive and he gave up everything he knew, joined up and said what do you want to now. They take a few laptops and have tax evasion conspiracy. What happens when they walk into Connecticut offices? When they lean on those employees?

    They took down Capone for taxes, here they have charges on conspiracy to help other people evade taxes. Anyone with any knowledge is open for prosecution. If you are an American working in Connecticut are you going to mess around? Or will you give them any list they want?

    Swiss banks are some mystical thing to many, but lets get real here. They are hiding assets, the workers are conspiring to help hide assets. Fine... what can the IRS do to a bank in Switzerland? Nothing. What can they do to one in CT? Anything they want.
     
    #34     Feb 22, 2009
  5. luken

    luken

    UBS´ issue with the IRS apply only to US tax evaders, there are plenty of tax evaders of other nationalities that bank there. Don´t think US clients make up a large percentage of their customer base
     
    #35     Feb 22, 2009
  6. Illum

    Illum

    #36     Feb 22, 2009
  7. The knives are out. UBS will have no competitive advantage with the world and G-20 targeting tax havens.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=arqqvejukth4&refer=home

    European G-20 Nations Seek Crackdown on Tax Havens (Update1)
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    By Alan Crawford and Patrick Donahue

    Feb. 22 (Bloomberg) -- European leaders said they will crack down on tax havens as they seek to boost transparency and apply uniform rules governing financial markets to stem the global crisis.

    A seven-point plan agreed by European heads of state and government from the Group of 20 nations in Berlin today called for “sanctions” against “uncooperative jurisdictions.”

    “We want to put a stop to tax havens,” French President Nicolas Sarkozy told reporters after the meeting. “We want results on this, with a list of tax havens and a series of consequences.” At a full G-20 summit in London in April, “Europe wants to see an overhaul of the system,” he said. “A new system without sanctions would not have any meaning.” The G-20 groups the main industrialized and developing countries, including China, Brazil and India. .........................................
     
    #37     Feb 22, 2009
  8. From what I learned, it is only small fractions of the entire list, about couple of hundreds out of almost 60k. Nevertheless, it is very serious matter which denatures UBS's reputation. Anyway, people have to realized that ubs has never been a serious Tax heaven for any illegal income. It is not the first time, UBS releases its client's account info and freeze questionable clients accounts.
     
    #38     Feb 22, 2009
  9. FWIW, the U.S. is seeking, and UBS previously agreed, to provide the names and account information of 52,000 American 'private wealth' clients.


    That is a lot.
     
    #39     Feb 22, 2009
  10. If they are heavily invested in Eastern Europe, then they may truly be desperate. Remember that they were one of the Euro banks to have subprime exposure, so they were "balls to the wall" as Euro banks come and go...
     
    #40     Feb 22, 2009