U.S. tech leaders sound alarm over Trump immigration ban

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Fine line between P&R and Wall Street News
    I'll defer to the Mods
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    5 Hours Ago
    Reuters



    SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 28 (Reuters) - The U.S. technology industry, a major employer of foreign workers, hit back on Saturday at President Donald Trump's sudden executive order on immigration, with some leaders calling it immoral and un-American.

    Trump's order temporarily bars citizens of seven majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States even if they hold valid visas or permanent residence permits, a move that caught many companies off-guard.

    Netflix Inc Chief Executive Reed Hastings called it "a sad week" and added: "It is time to link arms together to protect American values of freedom and opportunity."

    Apple Inc CEO Tim Cook sent a letter to employees saying Trump's order was "not a policy we support" and promised to help affected employees.

    "We have reached out to the White House to explain the negative effect on our coworkers and our company," Cook added.

    Aaron Levie, the outspoken founder and CEO of online storage company Box Inc, said: "The executive order on immigration is immoral and antithetical to our values."

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    Friday's order could be a major headache for tech companies, potentially leaving employees stranded overseas and unable to return to the United States.

    Alphabet Inc's Google urgently called back employees from overseas and told ones who might be affected by the ban not to leave the United States.

    CEO Sundar Pichai said in an email to staff that more than 100 Google employees were affected by the order, according to a Google executive.

    One Google employee of Iranian nationality with legal U.S. residency made it back to the United States just hours before the order took effect, the executive said.

    "We're concerned about the impact of this order and any proposals that could impose restrictions on Googlers and their families, or that could create barriers to bringing great talent to the U.S.," Google said in a statement.

    Microsoft Corp President and Chief Legal Officer Brad Smith said in a company-wide email posted on LinkedIn that 76 company employees were citizens of the seven countries in question and held U.S. work visas, and thus were directly affected by the order.

    He said the company had not determined how many people with green cards, or permanent residence status, might be affected.

    "As a company, Microsoft believes in a strong and balanced high-skilled immigration system," Smith said in the email. "We also believe in broader immigration opportunities, like the protections for talented and law-abiding young people under the Deferred Access for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) Program, often called "Dreamers."

    Smith also said: "We believe in the importance of protecting legitimate and law-abiding refugees whose very lives may be at stake in immigration proceedings."

    Uber Technologies Inc CEO Travis Kalanick, who has faced criticism from some employees for participating in President Trump's business advisory council, said in a statement on Saturday that the company would compensate drivers from the seven countries who might not be able to return to the United States for three months or more. He said the company knew of about a dozen employees who would be affected.

    "This ban will impact many innocent people - an issue that I will raise this coming Friday when I go to Washington for President Trump's first business advisory group meeting," Kalanick said.

    Facebook Inc CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in a post on Friday that was "concerned" about the order and voiced support for immigrants.

    (Reporting by Joseph Menn, Kristina Cook and Julia Love; Writing by Jonathan Weber; Editing by Alan Crosby and Bill Rigby)
     
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  2. comagnum

    comagnum

    Does it really do any good this immigration ban? Just food 4 thought.

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  3. toc

    toc

    Trump has a point here. By "extreme vetting" he is trying to minimize the chances of bad elements getting inside the US and create problems.

    This ban is only temporary until such vetting procedures are in place.

    However why has he left behind 4 most terrorizing nations out of the list:

    Pakistan: Epicentre of terrorism
    Afghanistan: After US has left, the Taliban elements are back in prominence
    Saudi Arabia: Biggest financier of Jihadi elements on globe
    Turkey: Biggest operations supporter of the ISIS

    Mr. Trump, either get into the core of the issues and sort them out firms or just as simple not even mess bothering around partially.
     
  4. gkishot

    gkishot

    What about Germany, Madrid, London, Paris, Belgium? Just a nuisance, right? Or you think America knows a secret sauce of how to stay immune from attacks? How many are arrested on terror-related charges? The more they are, the greater is the chance of terrorism. Plus there is a big difference between being hit by a bus and a mass murder for political ends. The former does not change your life style or makes you more fearful thus affecting your frame of mind.
     
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  5. comagnum

    comagnum

    Immigrants already have to go a very extensive background check before entering the country. The statistics speak for themselves. A federal judge in New York, has ordered a halt to deportations of travelers who arrived at airports with valid visas to enter the U.S. This issue will be going to the federal judges. V.P Pence is on record having recently stated "calls to ban Muslims entering the U.S. are offensive & unconstitutional".

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nts-could-revive-ideology-screening/88887330/
     
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  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    no attacks in Canada, Mexico, South America, or Asia.

    Europes proximity to the Mideast is what makes them challenging. The refugees literally just walked there in the millions. It's trivial to sneak someone in. For the US you have to get on an official US plane or boat.

    And as comagnun has said, he US already had the secret sauce.

    Isis and al queda love trumps policy btw. This is their goal. Incite more hatred between the west and ordinary muslims. It gives them a stronger base and this more power.

    Kinda like how trump found disaffected hard working honest people in the Midwest and convinced them that a formerly democrat New York billionaire who lives in a solid gold house understands their plight.
     
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  7. Of course US Tech leaders will take a sh!t. This will be the end of cheap labor and cut off their indian tech company profit sharing. Now they will need to hire Americans!
     
  8. Not sure of your sources but are we willing to take the chance? How many died and injured at the Boston marathon? Are you willing to pay extra and house them? All you pro muslim immigration should pay extra and sponsor them. Take on full responsibility, they commit a crime, sponsor is charged and serves same amount of time. I wouldn't mind that setup.
     
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  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Or get to Central America and start hoofin' it.
    Buy a ladder along the way.
    It only takes a few. Not millions.
    Just a few.
    To fvck it up for everybody.
    Just like kindergarten.
     
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    While this specific incident is tragic, when it comes to public policy, this is fear mongering.

    Will you take full responsibility for the Baylor football rapes (all 52 counts of them)? Or should we ban NCAA football.
     
    #10     Jan 29, 2017