Twitter and Musk

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VicBee, Oct 31, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2731     Mar 10, 2025
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  2. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Let’s face it, the Cybertruck is a spectacular piece of shit from an engineering perspective. Starlink satellites raining down, regularly deorbiting due to "unexpected solar activity" which, you know, is about as unexpected as the sun rising*.

    Starship? Exploded twice now, right after reaching space.

    There’s a pattern here: bold claims, then reality slaps Musk in the face. It’s almost like when you overwork people, everything turns to shit.

    "No sleep and break things."

    * When Musk blamed "unexpected solar activity" for Starlink satellites deorbiting, he was talking about how solar storms and increased atmospheric drag can mess with satellites. NASA and other space agencies track solar activity because it follows an 11-year cycle so was completely predictable.
     
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    #2732     Mar 10, 2025
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Musk wants to make the Social Security Administration just like X/Twitter.

    Well X/Twitter is down and not working.
     
    #2733     Mar 10, 2025
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Still not a shred of evidence found supporting a cyber attack on X/Twitter occurring today.

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    #2734     Mar 10, 2025
  5. That post proves absolutely nothing. Where is the evidence that there was no DDoS attack?

    Some douchbag on the internet saying there is no evidence doesn't mean there is no evidence.

    DDoS attacks are extremely common. If fact, it is likely that x/twitter get hit with a DDoS attack daily. I mean every single day of the year. DDoS attacks occur relentlessly around the clock, every second, 365 days a year.

    Here are some site where you can check it out.

    https://www.digitalattackmap.com/#anim=1&color=0&country=ALL&list=0&time=18763&view=map

    https://horizon.netscout.com/?mapPosition=20.32~3.60~0.00
     
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    #2735     Mar 10, 2025
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Apparently you don't really know very much about DDOS attacks.

    For a major website to be taken down by a DDOS attack, the attack would need to be so large & wide-scale while being targeted at particular IP addresses / domains that it would be obvious to every internet security monitoring tool. None of the tools you listed demonstrate a wide-scale attack targeting X/Twitter during the past 24 hours -- which effectively proves the point. Of course, none of the industry experts monitoring the internet have seen a large-scale cyber attack against X/Twitter either.

    Nearly every major social media site gets hit by DDOS attacks daily; there is a big difference between small scale DDOS attacks and a DDOS attack that is large enough to take down a major website -- which is protected by all sorts of edge protection equipment from Cisco and/or other vendors.

    DDOS is not the only type of attack that can take down a website. An attacker could go after DNS servers by propagating updates (DNS /cache poisoning) with false IP addresses for a domain, etc. But these attacks would be also readily apparent as well as any improper routing updates being widely propagated across the DNS servers. In the current day there are numerous protections against this attack approach.

    Musk's claim that a cyber attack coming out of Ukraine caused X/Twitter to go down is laughable. The reality is Elon is just casting about for some excuse to turn off Starlink for Ukraine while trying to deflect the poor internal operations at X/Twitter causing yet another outage.
     
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    #2736     Mar 10, 2025
  7. The only way to verify a DDoS attack is to see X's logs.

    DDoS attacks have evolved considerably.

    There are several key developments in modern DDoS attacks:

    Amplification techniques - Attackers leverage protocols like DNS, NTP, and Memcached where small requests generate massive responses, multiplying attack volume.
    IoT botnets - Networks like Mirai utilize thousands or millions of compromised Internet of Things devices (cameras, routers, smart appliances) to generate traffic without requiring traditional computer networks.
    Application layer attacks - Rather than simple bandwidth exhaustion, attackers target specific application vulnerabilities or resource-intensive processes, requiring less overall traffic to achieve denial of service.
    Carpet bombing - Instead of targeting specific IPs, attacks hit entire IP ranges, making mitigation more difficult.
    API abuse - Targeting APIs with seemingly legitimate requests that exhaust backend resources.

    While sheer volume remains an attack vector (with some attacks exceeding 2-3 Tbps), sophisticated attackers often use more targeted approaches that require less overall traffic but achieve similar disruption by exploiting specific vulnerabilities or behaviors in target systems.
     
    #2737     Mar 11, 2025
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Oh look, you managed to look up the modern DDOS attack methods in Google and cut & paste the results. You still are missing over 70% of the typical DDOS attack vectors but at least it is a start to your education.

    Once again, any large-scale DDOS attack of the massive size to take down a major social networking site would be readily apparent on the internet. There are plenty of monitoring points across the global internet that are used by experts and would easily detect a large scale attack.

    Even more laughable is your claim that the DDOS attack information would be found in X's server logs. The entire intent of edge protection equipment to stop DDOS attacks is to drop malformed IP packets before they get anywhere near the social media site's servers to be logged.

    The servers of a major website (social media, gambling, ecommerce, etc.) are designed to handle millions of connections and transactions per second. A standard (non-massive) DDOS attack (even if the traffic got to the servers) is a minor blip in context of the scope of the capabilities of the system.

    Even Fox News and CNN are mocking Musk's contention about a major DDOS attack taking down X/Twitter.

    Fox’s Steve Doocy Calls BS on Elon Musk’s Claim About X/Twitter Outage
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/foxs-steve-doocy-calls-bs-on-elon-musks-claim-about-x-twitter-outage/

    Elon Musk’s X hit by waves of outages in what he claims is ‘a massive cyberattack’
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/10/tech/elon-musk-x-outages/index.html
     
    #2738     Mar 11, 2025
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2739     Mar 25, 2025
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2740     Mar 27, 2025