Turtle Trading System??

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by sizetrade, Jul 23, 2002.

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  1. I don't think the turtle system is the best system. I think it's the best system sold to the public. I have a short term system to trade S&P's that makes a Avg. Win/Loss Ratio of 5.5:1 and a Pfactor of 3.38. I also have long-term systems with Pfactor of over 3.00 for every market that would perform better than the Turtle. I think the turtle system works but I also trade systems that outperform the turtle.

    Trend456

    :D Good Luck!!!
     
    #41     Sep 9, 2002
  2. Bob111

    Bob111

    one of turtles system coded for TC

    { Turtle Trading System
    Strategy is used as a simple flag
    0 = Trade on close
    1 = Trade next open
    2 = Trade intraday
    The exit signal is, instead, a classic intraday breakout
    Riccardo Ronco, 1999, London
    rrb3@btinternet.com }

    Input: Entry_L(20), Exit_L(10), Strategy(1);

    If CurrentBar > 1 then begin

    If Strategy = 0 then begin
    If Close > Highest(High,Entry_L)[1] Then Buy on Close;
    If Close < Lowest(Low,Entry_L)[1] Then Sell on Close;
    end;

    If Strategy = 1 then begin
    If Close > Highest(High,Entry_L)[1] Then Buy at market;
    If Close < Lowest(Low,Entry_L)[1] Then Sell at market;
    end;

    If Strategy = 2 then begin
    Buy Highest(High,Entry_L) + 1 point stop;
    Sell Lowest(Low,Entry_L) -1 point stop;
    end;

    { now let's manage the exit... }
    If marketposition = 1 then ExitLong Lowest(Low, Exit_L) -1 point stop;
    if marketposition = -1 then ExitShort Highest(High, Exit_L) + 1 point stop;

    end;

    hope it helps
     
    #42     Sep 9, 2002
  3. bigscalper

    bigscalper Guest

    LOL, where did you get that from, no wonder most of you feel the system is inferior.
     
    #43     Sep 9, 2002
  4. bigscalper, are you sworn to secrecy?
     
    #44     Sep 9, 2002
  5. Bob111

    Bob111

    from some site))))))))))
    i don't even know, what it all about, just browsing and remember this topic about turtles)))))))))))
     
    #45     Sep 9, 2002
  6. bigscalper

    bigscalper Guest

    if you want a hint, the turtle system can't (can not) be successfully backtested in TS.

    if any you guys want some more indepth info, PM me
     
    #46     Sep 9, 2002
  7. Hey Bigscalper,

    I agree with you saying that it can't be tested. Most of them test it and don't recognize that there's a lot of judgemental or materials in the system that just can't be tested. I think most of them think it's a computerized system. I think the computer just does some job but not all of it. Computer just speeds up the decision making process.

    trend456
     
    #47     Sep 9, 2002
  8. bigscalper

    bigscalper Guest

    so you do understand

    Alot of the turtle system involves the way you pyramid into a winning trade. Hard to backtest that effectively
     
    #48     Sep 9, 2002
  9. Bob,

    Where did you find that info on the Turtle system? Playboy?
    I will get back to you and Mr. Bigscalper. The only one who seems to know what they are talking about re: the turtle system is Trend 456. Bigscalper, slow down, you have proven to me that you know very little about the turtle system. You haven't even answered my questions! For ex., How long have you used the Turtle system and HOW DO YOU KNOW THE efficacy of it?
     
    #49     Sep 9, 2002
  10. I already knew this in the past but that's the thing most people don't understand. I actuallly remember Van tharpe saying that he doesn't recommend the method because it's not purely systematic.

    I'm surprised to see somebody bringing this point because nobody did in the past. diversification and liquidation also tends to be judgemental, too.

    trend456
     
    #50     Sep 9, 2002
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