TT vs. Ninja

Discussion in 'Trading Software' started by mgookin, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. Precisely
     
    #61     Nov 11, 2008
  2. I've used Ninja Trader with Velocity's TT feed in the past and had many problems, ie.. ghost orders, open positions that did not show on my platform and velocity told me it's still my responsibility to call them every day to check if orders are closed or opened, they call them ghost orders, Ninja trader told me this will never happen with a Zenfire feed, I've been using NT w/ Zenfire @ Amp for several months now with no feed issues.
     
    #62     Nov 11, 2008
  3. Ghost orders are not acceptable with any product used with any feed; one should never have to call their broker to determine open positions.

    I suspect I know why there was a problem with NT & Velocity’s TT Feed and not NT & Zenfire.

    From a coding perspective, it is a straight forward problem to solve – nothing new – and if the app is coded correctly, the problem should not exist regardless of the feed.
     
    #63     Nov 11, 2008
  4. thanks STAN !!!!!! VERY MUCH
     
    #64     Nov 11, 2008
  5. Dale Box

    Dale Box Velocity Futures


    Ghost orders do NOT exist...when you establish your Ninja/TT connection you must OK a warning message explaining if you hold overnight positions they may not correctly display. It also says if you find yourself in that situation it's your responsibilty to contact your broker for your position.
     
    #65     Nov 11, 2008
  6. Our (traders) biggest problem is that we can't trust anyone.

    Whether it's frozen or ghost orders, I think we can all agree that what we see on the tape is fraud if it's either one of them.

    Any idiot can read into SEC regulations and see that frozen and ghost orders are unlawful.

    So why then do these software companies promote frozen and ghost orders?

    My guess is that it's because they will exploit it unless or until they get stopped by the US Attorney's office.

    Every corrupt gorilla (Hank Paulson's alumni at GS and otherwise) will exploit the daylights out of it until they get pardoned.

    Anyone disagree?
     
    #66     Nov 11, 2008



  7. Again, ZENFIRE does not do this!
     
    #67     Nov 12, 2008
  8. Ive traded Ninja with the TT feed through Advantage Futures and had the same problem. Ninja trade history not matching up with actual trade history etc.....
    Its not unmanageable but as it was said, we shouldnt have to 2nd guess our platform like that. I have heard good things about the ZENFIRE feed. Look forward to trying it out!
     
    #68     Nov 12, 2008
  9. First part is correct; second part is wrong:

    TT 7.5.x is not a Java application or written in java.
    In fact during the installation you will find a new program installed on your Windows Control Panel: Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable and there are no java applets open while it's running. It only relies on Net Framework 2.0 SP1.
     
    #69     Nov 12, 2008
  10. moarla

    moarla

    TT is written in C++. BUT: latest Java is faster then C++. no problems with Java here.
     
    #70     Nov 12, 2008