$TSLA

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by Phill Twist, Aug 18, 2015.

  1. Snapchat, maybe yes. But it's also hard to say, look at FB.
     
    #801     Feb 27, 2017
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Beside solar panels, batteries and lifestyle? Hell, they have just changed their NAME dropping the Motors!!! They must be really serious about this car business... :)

    You can have a Ponzi with a product. The original Ponzi was a stamp arbitrage between Italy and the USA, it was just never played out. Or Amway. Just because they sell products, that doesn't mean their system is less of a pyramid... But when you have a product, you can deny the ponzi nature of the business easier, to those who don't understand business or simple math.

    Chances are Tesla will never sell cars profitably... Maybe after the bankruptcy when someone buys them for pennies on the dollar.

    Update on the bankruptcy prediction:

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/405...ut-capital-raise-skeptics-critics-strike-back

    Well, it is capital raise soon or bankruptcy...
     
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    #802     Feb 27, 2017
  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    :D:D:D
    One of my favorite ET lines of all time.
    Thought I'd resurrect it.
     
    #803     Feb 27, 2017
  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    #804     Feb 27, 2017
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    If pattern holds, bottom right: lower Model 3 rollout, higher Model 3 price, SolarCity burning cash

    Then it ramps: SpaceX merged with TSLA and lands big govt contracts, ramp in Chinese orders
     
    #805     Feb 27, 2017
  6. #806     Feb 28, 2017
  7. Amazon was unprofitable for years, nothing bad happened there.
     
    #807     Feb 28, 2017
  8. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    Tesla shares tumble as doubters emerge
    Tesla stock took a hit Monday as Goldman Sachs downgraded its outlook for the maker of electric vehicles. Analysts at the investment bank dropped the company from neutral to sell, based on uncertainties about Model 3 production, SolarCity’s performance after its acquisition and the company’s likely need to raise more cash. (Siliconbeat)
     
    #808     Feb 28, 2017
  9. Jamie J.

    Jamie J.

    Looks like TSLA is ready for the high increase again. This week will clearly show this.
     
    #809     Feb 28, 2017
  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    False analogy.

    1. Amazon has huge revenues but they decided to built a huge chain of storage facilities. Once that network was done they were able to turn profits.

    2. They are killing the competition, the brick and mortar stores. The entry to compete with Amazon is so expensive that very few tries it. Amazon became the 800 pounds gorilla. With Tesla the competition is beating Tesla by at least a year by selling a sub 35K EV....

    3. There was always a steady revenue growth, although their profit margin was very thin. But there was a chance for profit after the first 10 or so years. Unlike with Tesla. Tesla has no profitability in the near term future, not until 2020 according to Musk himself... They just not going to survive that long...

    It is a race between showing profitability and running out of money. Whichever comes first decides the company's future. Now even the big money raisers like GS giving up on Tesla. Taking on little cousin's failing company also doesn't help the big picture...

    Big stock dilution is coming, they will probably raise 3 billions...
     
    #810     Feb 28, 2017
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