TSLA options

Discussion in 'Options' started by TimtheEnchanter, Jul 20, 2020.

  1. Excellent. That might eventually stop you from firing off random trades that you obviously don't understand, and get you to either give up trading options OR doing a bit of studying so you'll understand why you shouldn't do this.

    Repeating: "...why you shouldn't do this."

    Expanding a bit: look up the definition of theta (even better, look at the curve showing theta over time to expiration.) Then come back here and tell us why doing the above is a REALLY bad idea.

    Look up the inputs to the Black-Scholes formula, and note the one called "implied volatility".

    If you take a drill to your forehead, it's not the drill that has "special ways of screwing" you.
     
    #11     Jul 20, 2020
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  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    I learned the most basic definition of theta. The decay in value over time. How about ateht? It is the unfounded principle that the longer you wait for a future index to up in value, the more likely it becomes a reality?

    The FACK did NQ do today? 550 point run straight-up from the midnight close until now? WTF with larger caps. Sorry for the tangent, just musing about how ateht is real. :-\
     
    #12     Jul 20, 2020
  3. taowave

    taowave

    Judging by your post,I will go out on a limb and say you may not be ready to trade TSLA..

    Im assuming you know earnings are coming out on the 22nd,vol is jacked..

    The market makers did not drop vol 40 handles on you.

    First you said you legged a spread,took a small hit,got out and then revenge traded and bought a call...TSLA rallied,but you took a 10 point hickey and then said BOTH your options finished ITM,but you were only long 1 call..

    You totally lost me comparing 1 share of TSLA costing 1600 dollars with a 13k option position.
    Are you trading 130 dollar options/spreads??? You did mention your spread cost was 5.75...Where did 13k come from??

     
    #13     Jul 20, 2020
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  4. After the debit spread, I bought one individual call. And some TSLA ITM options (1640 calls) are $13000.
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    #14     Jul 20, 2020
  5. taowave

    taowave

    You went from. Trading a 3 dollar spread to a 130 dollar call with a 7 dollar bid offer spread?

     
    #15     Jul 20, 2020

  6. Do you plan on selling before earnings (Wed) or after?

    • TSLA at $1,643
    • Long July24 1640 calls @ $130
    • Price target after earnings $1,773+
    • 52-week high $1,795
     
    #16     Jul 20, 2020
  7. people play options cause you can possiblly make 100% or ROI in a week if you are lucky same as gambling not investing, not even trading. without doing anything. or lose 50% of your capital in a week with options. and with some options there is counterparty risk or negative pricing for options in energy options which is BS too. in BS rigged market.

    also the way they price these OTM put and call options is BS too. and is mostly option players who 'play' the options. with these 'sophisticated' condos or spread BS
     
    #17     Jul 20, 2020
  8. .sigma

    .sigma

    OP, I only read the first few words of your post...

    “I am getting scared of trading options”

    you are doomed then.. trade smaller or don’t trade
     
    #18     Jul 20, 2020
    • I'm rooting for the OP.
    • Those 1640 calls could easily make a killing - and most likely will.
     
    #19     Jul 21, 2020
  9. I have no positions anymore. I lost a $1000 on one lousy contract.
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2020
    #20     Jul 21, 2020