Trying to Manage these Trading Combines. Anyone else?

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by legionx, May 28, 2020.

  1. ZTrader888

    ZTrader888

    If it's stupid, why do you offer it?? Because you're looking for gullible, vulnerable wannabe traders.
     
    #131     Dec 27, 2022
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    CME considers that a wash trade and is not allowed.
     
    #132     Dec 27, 2022
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  3. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    A wash trade is a form of market manipulation in which an investor simultaneously sells and buys the same financial instruments to create misleading, artificial activity in the marketplace.

    But it's not in the intention to mislead market players.
    What if it would be for hedging reason ?

    There would be no significant effect on price.
     
    #133     Dec 27, 2022
  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    Look. I agree this really only affects larger institutions. The small little retailer would not be on the CME's BCC radar. But like an IRS audit, they could randomly select you and put you through their version of the Inquisition. Would be ready to prove your true intention?

    Would a prop firm be willing to take the chance, since it is THEIR money that will pay the fines and possible trading suspension?
     
    #134     Dec 27, 2022
  5. s trader

    s trader

    Apex does not allow you to hedge funded accounts one against the other. If you do that they simply do not pay you. In the evaluation i imagine anything goes.
     
    #135     Dec 28, 2022
  6. ZTrader888

    ZTrader888

    APEX has no transparency. There are a number of "rules" that will prevent you from being paid. It's a cash machine looking for vulnerable wannabe traders. That's it.
     
    #136     Dec 28, 2022
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  7. Anyone who believes anything else is very gullible.
     
    #137     Dec 28, 2022
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  8. DevBru

    DevBru

    Long time ago since i ever looked at these kind of companies.

    What kind of rules are you talking about? Will have to take a look at their website.

    In the end all of them are just hamster wheels, feeding on failing traders.
     
    #138     Dec 28, 2022
  9. ZTrader888

    ZTrader888

    Their "rules" are less than transparent. I've seen reports where a trader would not be paid if they had a single day with a huge win. Apparently, their "consistency" rule kicks in when your trades vary by profit - or something like that. I don't believe there's anything at the website that describes their rules in detail - and that's intentional, of course.
     
    #139     Dec 28, 2022
  10. DevBru

    DevBru

    Well, a quick Google search gave me this:

    https://support.apextraderfunding.c...stency-Rules-For-PA-and-Funded-Prop-Accounts-

    Not the first time i saw these kind of companies with such "consistency" rules.
     
    #140     Dec 28, 2022