Trump's incompetence cost hundreds of thousands of lives, says own Pandemic coordinator

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Mar 29, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's see the response of the Trump administration diehards to the recent revelations about Trump's failed pandemic response...

    Peter Navarro calls for Fauci's death. Live on Fox News. "Judge" Jeanine didn't stop him and would be an accessory to any charges leveled against Peter.

     
    #81     Mar 31, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's take a look at the world leaders club that Trump is part of...

    Which world leader has the worst Covid-19 pandemic record? The competition is fierce
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/ameri...d19-pandemic-record-the-competition-is-fierce

    A catastrophic pandemic and a calamitous presidency combined to give the United States the world's worst pandemic death toll. That was essentially confirmed by Deborah Birx, President Donald Trump's coronavirus task force coordinator, who told CNN that most deaths in the United States could have been prevented.

    And yet - cold comfort - Trump might not have been the worst leader of the pandemic. Others arguably botched the crisis even worse than Trump did, and the list tells you a lot about the state of global governance.

    It's hard to top the response of Nicaragua's near-eternal President Daniel Ortega and his wife, who responded to news of a pandemic by calling people into the streets for a festive parade they called "Love in the Time of Covid-19" - a perversely fitting allusion to the work of Gabriel García Márquez, whose novels seamlessly blend fact and hallucination. The reckless move horrified human rights activists and scientists alike.

    Hard to top it is, but not impossible. There's Jair Bolsonaro, president of Brazil, where the health-care system stands on the verge of collapse, and the unchecked spread of the virus has spawned variants now threatening other struggling countries.

    Bolsonaro has echoed Trump's claims about hydroxychloroquine, squandering emergency pandemic funds on the useless treatment. He has fired health ministers for refusing to go along with his Covid-19 denial and claimed that Brazilians might be immune to the "little flu" because they swim in sewage and nothing happens to them. Bolsonaro, who himself became infected, called on Brazilians to protest antivirus measures and joined them in the streets. Few people wore masks, and he gleefully shook hands - sometimes after coughing into his own.

    As the pandemic explodes across Brazil, with thousands dying every day, he recently told Brazilians to "stop whining" about it.

    Another president who caught the virus while playing it down is Mexico's Andrés Manuel López Obrador. Early on, he advised Mexicans to "live life as usual". Even after he became infected, he rejected requests to wear a mask. He says he will wear one when corruption is eradicated in Mexico, a distant prospect. As in the United States, mask-wearing became highly politicised, a development that contributed to the climbing death toll.

    This weekend, Mexican authorities quietly released a report showing the real count is 60 per cent higher than the official figure, putting Mexico neck and neck with Brazil for the world's second-highest pandemic death toll, behind the United States.

    Coincidence? Populism seems to be a comorbidity in a pandemic, raising its deadly toll.

    Then there are the dictators, like Belarus's Alexander Lukashenko, who described the pandemic as nothing more than a "psychosis" and prescribed vodka and saunas to prevent it. Lukashenko, who has faced months of mass protests after a disputed election last summer, has blocked common-sense measures to slow down the virus at almost every turn.

    Yet many Belarusians have resisted his negligent approach - just as many have pushed back against his dictatorship. Ignoring his calamitous advice, individuals practised social distancing, held crowdfunding campaigns to buy supplies for hospitals and, in the end, have probably helped to keep the virus and the death toll in Belarus from spiralling out of control.

    In Turkmenistan, another post-Soviet dictatorship, the government has set a new low for denial by banning mask-wearing and any discussion of the pandemic. The use of the word "coronavirus" has reportedly been outlawed in media or health information materials. Turkmenistan still claims it hasn't had any coronavirus cases, a claim no one believes.

    In Cambodia, where Prime Minister Hun Sen has held power since 1985 (making him one of the world's longest-ruling heads of government), the first move was denial. He welcomed cruise ship passengers shunned by other countries for fear of the pandemic. Gradually, his response turned to repression, banning criticism and arresting those who complained, then using the emergency to tighten the regime's grip.

    In Africa, yet another authoritarian populist, President John Magufuli of Tanzania, also dismissed talk of a global emergency. He told people not to bother with masks or vaccines, claiming that three days of prayer eradicated the virus in Tanzania. To make his point, he claimed to have submitted samples of pawpaw fruit and said they came back positive, ridiculing scientists.

    Magufuli died this month. Authorities say he died from heart complications, but members of the opposition say they have it on good authority that he died of Covid-19.

    It's impossible to cover all the outrages by populist demagogues and assorted tyrants. (Apologies if I left out one you found particularly offensive.) Every world leader made mistakes, but there's something uniquely malignant about the manipulations and deceptions of the most outrageous players.

    It is sometimes hard to suppress a chuckle when watching the antics of these buffoons. Yet the sense of absurdity is quickly stifled by the realisation that their actions have likely contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands around the world - perhaps more.

    As for Trump, these other leaders remind us that he wasn't alone in his mishandling of the pandemic. He has a lot of competition for the title of worst pandemic president. But he's still a contender.
     
    #82     Mar 31, 2021
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  3. jem

    jem

    This is the perfect quote....

    this would be over... had the govt shared the data... and explained to the high risk that they must protect themselves better.

    We had absolute assholes here telling me that I was being selfish for going to the beach...
    and I told the morons there is no evidence of statistically significant outdoor spread.
    (and even moron fauci has cited the importance of Vitamin D.)

    Again... I must remind the Covid morons here..

    a. There is no statistically useful proof of outdoor spread... especially doing normal outdoor activities...
    b. There is no statistically useful evidence of asymptomatic spread.
    c. We have studies showing that mask wearers are not protected relative to non masks wearers.
    d. Last time I checked we don't really have any sold studies showing masks protect people in real life. (except for n-95s. ). Distancing works... masks get dirty... masks get touched. Dirty masks are quite dangerous.

    Doctors and the govt also know who this virus kills.


    And we know many of those people could have been protected better...
    And it would have started with the truth.

    And... telling them they must protect themselves better.
    They should not have been walking around thinking their masks were protecting them.




     
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    #83     Mar 31, 2021
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Keep shoveling this fictional nonsense.
     
    #84     Mar 31, 2021
  5. smallfil

    smallfil

    The morons finally, figured out that the outdoors is safe yet, extreme liberal idiots like Gavin Newsom banned even outdoor dining? They are really out to destroy the US from within. You do not need China or Russia to do that, all you need is more extreme liberal idiot Democrats in power to finish the job! Let us see how long before they figure out the cloth masks are for practical purposes useless. For all the so called science that extreme liberals like to mouth off, these morons have no clue that masks by itself does not protect you when there are huge gaps around the nose area? How dumb can you be? Apparently, the extreme liberals think they are smart as heck, because they voted for usurper-in-chief, Joe Biden and you can see the shit show he is!
     
    #85     Mar 31, 2021
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  6. jem

    jem

    You have been the one who has been wrong for over a year.
    I have provided links to show everything I have said above.

    Besides...
    were you not the moron who said it was impossible to protect the high risk better.



     
    #86     Mar 31, 2021
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As noted many times.... the ONLY way to reasonably protect the high risk is to keep the prevalence of COVID low in your community. Go see New Zealand and Australia as examples of the proper way to do things.

    Go look at Brazil to see what your twisted fantasy looks like in real life.
     
    #87     Mar 31, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    Islands who closed their borders as I advocated. Were you not against Trump when he tried to close down the borders?
     
    #88     Mar 31, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump closed the borders? What a joke. He let tens of thousands of people in from China and Europe in spring and summer of 2020. Not a single person incoming was required to take a COVID test. Not a single person incoming were required to quarantine out of contact of others. Not a single person had a follow-up contact from public health officials to ensure they were not showing symptoms. This is NOT closing the border. What Trump did was a joke and in no way effectively promoted proper safety measures for incoming travelers to protect our country's health.
     
    #89     Mar 31, 2021
  10. It's not closing the borders when everyone can pretty much get in....

    Also closing the border with China is not factual... the decree was no Chinese could come in but anyone else from China was free to come in with no restrictions or recommendations for quuarantine.

    You could never really close the U.S. completely to all travellers from everywhere but it would have been nice for about 2 weeks to lock shit up and then demand everyone who comes in quarantine. I had friends go to Australia to start a new job. They got taken from the airport to a hotel to quarantine for 2 weeks and were tested before and after. It may be an "island" but you can still control who comes in via airpots really easy in the U.S.
     
    #90     Mar 31, 2021
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