Trump’s Idea to Bleach Lungs to Kill Coronavirus Alarms Experts

Discussion in 'Politics' started by FrankInLa, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. I’ll see what I can do. I think the coffee is already feeling the pressure.
     
    #451     May 16, 2020
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  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Just now, I was on a zoom call with my cousin's Colombian wife's family for an aunt who it was believed was in her final hours (cancer) and one of them who lives in Florida started pitching fucking chlorine dioxide.. Miricle mineral solution.. From Trump's con artist 'pastor' guy

    Well the 20 people on the call shredded her which is as well as my Spanish is still awful. It was a thing to behold, she had to go away for a cry.

    What stuns me is she and her Italian husband are rich and beautiful but also highly conservative Catholics, they own a lot of gas stations and a mall or two in Miami. OK, business for the mall is quiet I guess but.. Jesus.. They are worth over 50 million bucks or something and drinking bleach..??

    How are there catholics being suckered into this retarded evangelical whatever shit? Catholicism embraces science.. She even swore it cured someone's malaria in two days. Completely suckered.
     
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    #452     May 17, 2020
  3. Seems I'm not alone in my opinion. I went looking for more Nescafe Gold Espresso this weekend and then again yesterday. I went to 2 large supermarkets. Sold out. Meanwhile there's available Gold Dark Roast as far as the eye can see. Well, maybe not quite that far. :D
     
    #453     May 21, 2020
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  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Caveat... please... don't shoot the messenger here.
    (I'm just sitting on my hands here watching my meager trade work out (short $SQ)... so I was bored)

    I have no idea if there's anything to this. Probably just coincidence.

    A good friend of mine, he's actually a friend's kid, but I've known him since birth, he's an incredible, naturally talented musician. Can play any instrument really. Rare tbh, but whatever. Anyway his wife is an EMS type in a suburb outside Detroit. Works the "bad" areas. She came down with Covid last month. Tested positive and everything. (She's back at work now fwiw).

    So to make a long story longer, they have a recording studio in their home, she's a decent singer so she stands in with this guy and a few of the bands he performs with, just to hang out really, but she's always around when she's not working. No kids. The studio is decent sized, not quite the size of a two car garage, but close. No windows, no ventilation. Well she infected two other people. Out of about 7 that hang out there. They too are reportedly ok... but here's the thing.... the entire effing band vapes like fiends... except the two that got infected. And her.

    Now I already looked into this, and all the scientific research says that vaping and/or smoking increases the risk. But I found the facts behind these folks awful damn coincidental.

    I've been reading about this stuff all morning. Technically, no real studies have been done. There is a lot of chatter on the vaping forums one way or the other. But way back when vaping came in vogue, there were many many people saying they were no longer getting colds. True? I have no idea.

    Here's what's interesting though...
    One of the primary ingredients in e-cigs is propylene glycol. A study done in 1942 for the military in WW2 to develop a way to sterilize barracks and field hospitals to keep soldiers from getting sick (sicker) found that vaporized propoylene glycol worked 100% in preventing mice from getting the flu.
    From Time Magazine archives:
    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,932876,00.html

    I found the complete article (go figure) on a Reddit vape forum.

    https://tinyurl.com/y943ap3a

    I just think its interesting that this kid, he's 36 btw, and his band-mates, but especially him since he lives with her... didn't catch anything.

    So who knows. It is interesting though. I'm sure its no panacea, but still. Seems odd.


    Many chemicals were found to kill airborne micro-organisms quickly, even in concentrations as low as one gram of chemical per 500 cu. ft. of air. Trouble was that all these air germicides smelled bad, or were toxic, or irritated the respiratory tract. Dr. Robertson's propylene glycol vapor is odorless, tasteless, nontoxic, non-irritating, cheap, highly bactericidal.

    Its discovery was accidental. Dr. Robertson and his colleagues were trying out another possible germicide—a detergent or "soapless soap" (similar to Dreft, Aerosol and other products widely sold for household and industrial use). Water solutions of the detergent were only mildly effective, so the researchers tried solutions of detergents in propylene glycol, which is a sort of thin glycerine. Results were much better. Then the researchers found that the propylene glycol itself was a potent germicide.

    One part of glycol in 2,000,000 parts of air would—within a few seconds—kill concentrations of air-suspended pneumococci, streptococci and other bacteria numbering millions to the cubic foot.

    How did it work? Respiratory disease bacteria float about in tiny droplets of water breathed, sneezed and coughed from human beings. The germicidal glycol also floats in infinitesimally small particles.

    Calculations showed that if droplet had to hit droplet, it would take two to 200 hours for sterilization of sprayed air to take place. Since sterilization took place in seconds, Dr. Robertson concluded that the glycol droplets must give off gas molecules which dissolve in the water droplets and kill the germs within them.

    Dr. Robertson placed groups of mice in a chamber and sprayed its air first with propylene glycol, then with influenza virus. All the mice lived. Then he sprayed the chamber with virus alone. All the mice died. Propylene glycol is harmless to man when swallowed or injected into the veins. It is also harmless to mice who have breathed it for long periods. But medical science is cautious—there was still a remote chance that glycol might accumulate harmfully in the erect human lungs which, unlike those of mice, do not drain themselves.

    So last June Dr. Robertson began studying the effect of glycol vapor on monkeys imported from the University of Puerto Rico's School of Tropical Medicine. So far, after many months' exposure to the vapor, the monkeys are happy and fatter than ever. Dr. Robertson does not expect mankind to live, like his monkeys, continuously in an atmosphere of glycol vapor; but it should be most valuable in such crowded places as schools and theaters, where most respiratory diseases are picked up.
     
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    #454     May 21, 2020
  5. So basically your saying Trump was right. Heathen Nazi, off with your head
     
    #455     May 21, 2020
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  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Maybe. :rolleyes:
    Credit where credit is due?

    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

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    #456     May 21, 2020
  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I bought Nescafe Fine Selection yesterday for a change, its a bit richer and smoother but I found after two cups I was done for the day, 3 to 4 on my normal more local brand.


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    #457     May 21, 2020
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    i find instant much less stimulating than brewed honestly.
     
    #458     May 21, 2020
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  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    It loses a lot of flavour when the water is very hot, I used to prefer my ground but found if I only heat the water to a comfortable drinking temp, the instant is better.

    I don't like getting too wired as my day to day style was fast scalping mini futures, the law of diminishing energy returns with coffee translates to money fairly directly :)
     
    #459     May 21, 2020
  10. Culturally speaking? :D
     
    #460     May 22, 2020