Trumps approval rating among blacks at 29% Was at 8% when elected.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Aug 13, 2018.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Oh yeah, it's doing wonders for Sweden. Or Germany, or France, or Italy, or Spain, or Greece, or Turkey, or Belgium, or ...

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    #31     Aug 14, 2018
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  2. I did address it. Allowing in massive numbers of low-skilled and often criminal people who don't even speak our language does not make us stronger. They consume welfare at a much higher rate and bring huge additional costs, eg schools, hospitals, prisons. The idea they somehow are a net financial positive is based on flawed assumptions, pushed by cheap labor advocates like the Koch brothers.

    The idea these immigrants will bail out our old age programs is fanciful. First, you have to assume they actually are a financial plus rather than a drain, which is highly doubtful. Then you have to assume that when they and other "oppressed" minorities achieve majority status, as dems and the media keep gloating will happen, that their priority will be to pay for the comfortable retirements of their white oppressors. That seems very unlikely to me as well. In that scenario we would be more like the embattled whites of South Africa, having our property taken and fearful of being murdered with the government's approval.
     
    #32     Aug 14, 2018
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  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    I’m reading what you wrote and trying to truly give it a fair shake but I have to tell you, it seems to me that you are full of unwarranted paranoia.

    But, I do not wish to beat my head against the wall. I hear you and I disagree with your assessment and find it baseless.

    Immigrants are met positives to America and America needs immigrants unless we either start having babies at a much higher rate or we simply accept an impending collapse. We can respectfully manage a decline but the end result will be pretty desperate.

    I will also warn you MAGA types about a skill based immigration system. Those are jobs that will cut into already established American families. Our tradition has been take immigrants with all skills, including low skills, and let them work into the middle class through the generations.

    Often times you right wingers talk about assimilation. Bringing foreigners with established careers will all but ensure they do not assimilate.
     
    #33     Aug 14, 2018
  4. TJustice

    TJustice

    Your friend the economist learned his economics from his grandmother Marx.

    Labor is an input and can give one a comparative advantage over another country in some industries for a time but growth requires innovation, capital and a consistent rule of law and reinvestment of some profits into to new technology including labor saving technology.

    Investors also need a good investment environment. The lower taxes the better. The more consistent the rule of law the better. And, countries in which the opposition party is leftist or likely to nationalize also lag behind.




     
    #34     Aug 14, 2018
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  5. TJustice

    TJustice

    New jobs are created by demand and or investment. Demand and investment are impacted by taxes and innovation among other things.

    Lowering taxes in the right manner will stimulate investment which can create jobs. However, the workforce also needs to have the skills for the jobs. If not the investment will go into tech.

    If you are a ditch digging business you can hire workers, better shovels or digging machines or some from every category.




     
    #35     Aug 14, 2018
  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    Actually my economist friend's grandmother was a communist.
     
    #36     Aug 14, 2018
  7. TJustice

    TJustice

    Exactly right because that is the position espoused by communists and socialists as they nationalize private industry.

    You catch on fairly quickly. Well done.

     
    #37     Aug 14, 2018
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    The interesting thing her is that she was right. Don't you agree?
     
    #38     Aug 14, 2018
  9. By your reasoning Brazil and Pakistan should be economic powerhouses, and Japan faces a hopeless future.
     
    #39     Aug 14, 2018
  10. Good1

    Good1

    Seems right......if nations were actually Ponzi schemes.
     
    #40     Aug 15, 2018
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