Trumpies kill black man out on a jog

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, May 8, 2020.


  1. lunging for a gun barrell is not a defense to murder. If I break into your house with a gun and you reach for it I dont get to shoot you and claim self defense. So not as simple as your small mind makes it to be.
     
    #211     Nov 20, 2021
  2. Mercor

    Mercor

    It would be more clear to you if you could read better
    I said grabbing a gun ... changes the whole legal assessment

    You do like to conflate scenarios.....
    If you enter my house with a gun...I can shot you in self defense....
     
    #212     Nov 20, 2021
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    "stand your ground" only if you're white, a con, and are armed.
     
    #213     Nov 20, 2021
  4. ipatent

    ipatent

    That's right, it is a gray area and depends on the circumstances. That's why this case could go either way.
     
    #214     Nov 20, 2021
  5. ipatent

    ipatent

    McMichael Jr. fired the shots.
     
    #215     Nov 20, 2021
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  6. If I enter your house with a gun and you try and grab it, I can shoot you in self defense
     
    #216     Nov 20, 2021
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Sorry, my glitch there, I knew the dad was in the back of the truck but thought I had it backwards yesterday after reading something had my Travis and Gregory confused.

    The victim also physically outclassed Jr McMichael.

    As I said before, when I was an anti-poaching ranger I would have read the riot act to any of my guys taking on a superior opponent solo, unlike the movies, the stronger guy nearly always wins. If you can't handle it, disengage and follow until you have back up. Threatening with a gun was not OK in this case and disproportionate.

    The danger of this case, like the Kenosha case is mall ninjas confusing TV with reality. The law may have been on their side in the state at the time, the fault was bringing a gun into it.
     
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    #217     Nov 20, 2021
  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    The lesson is don't inappropriately wield a gun in a tense situation. There are paths of escalation that moron mall ninjas need to have explained are a big no-no.

    Civilians don't threaten unarmed people in public spaces with guns, it is a serious assault and they will react to defend themselves and others. You have to have training and experience to avoid a gun tussle you ham-fistedly brought on.
     
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    #218     Nov 20, 2021
  9. ipatent

    ipatent

    #219     Nov 20, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #220     Nov 20, 2021