Trumpies kill black man out on a jog

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, May 8, 2020.

  1. ipatent

    ipatent

    It's a gray area in self defense law if you have a right to shoot someone who is trying to take the gun away from you. Depends on the totality of the facts.

    One of them was former law enforcement.
     
    #101     Oct 18, 2021
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    This is the logic of people who believe in "duty-to-retreat" laws.

    This means that if you have a gun, and the assailant has a knife, and you are both in an open field, you as the victim must run away from the assailant. When the assailant catches up to you and stabs you in the back as you are running away, they are not at fault for doing anything wrong.

    This is obvious, because if you use your gun and kill the assailant with duty-to-retreat in effect by standing your ground in an open field, you will be charged with murder.
     
    #102     Oct 18, 2021

  3. Don't think any of that applies here. Man jogging is assaulted by 3 men with a gun. No law says Aubrey had to comply with illegal detainment or assault with a gun. Whitey instigated an assault with a deadly weapon and Aubrey acted reasonably in reacting to armed men assaulting him. He got shot and killed.

    There is no stand your ground implicated here . Aubrey was surrounded and hit by a truck and attacked by an armed man who was.commiting a felony.

    There is no right of citizens arrest that allows you to break the law. No stolen property.was.found on Aubrey...

    Those 3 are.going to jail. vigilantism is illegal.
     
    #103     Oct 19, 2021
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    don't count on it. They'll be judged by a body of their GA peers after all
     
    #104     Oct 19, 2021
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  5. ipatent

    ipatent

    One of them was just there with a camera as a witness.
     
    #105     Oct 19, 2021
  6. ipatent

    ipatent

    Trial is starting this week. Arbery had a previous history of carrying firearms and attacking police:

    On December 3, 2013, when Arbery was 19 and no longer a student at Brunswick, he went to the school during a girl’s basketball game. School Security Officer Jody Vicent was posted by the entrance to the gym and noticed that Arbery had what looked like a gun tucked into his waistband. Officer Vicent asked Arbery to turn to the right, so he could get a better look at the possible gun, and Arbery ran away. Officer Vicent chased him, but couldn’t keep up. He shouted to another officer, “Stop him! He has a gun!”

    Officer David Smith grabbed at Arbery, but Arbery dug his nails into Officer Smith’s arm and scratched him, breaking free. Another officer who chased Arbery tripped over a speed bump in the parking lot, and was later treated for cuts, abrasions, and fractures in his fingers.

    Another officer was called to the scene and drove up to Arbery, pointing his gun out the car’s window and several times ordered Arbery to stop. The officer noticed Arbery feeling around his waistband, but he had dropped the gun. This officer and another officer managed to corner Arbery and arrest him. The school was locked down while police looked for the gun, which they found loaded, with eight rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber.

    Arbery was charged with carrying a weapon within school safety zones, disruption of operation of a public school, and willful obstruction of law enforcement by use of threats or violence. He got probation. At age 23, he was arrested for shoplifting.​
     
    #106     Oct 20, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Your source is complete bullshiat -- basically a hate site.

    The Unz Review

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    Overall, we rate The Unz Review a Questionable Source due to extreme right wing bias, promotion of propaganda and hate, as well as utilizing poor sources


    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-unz-report/
     
    #107     Oct 20, 2021
  8. ipatent

    ipatent

    Are you saying he wasn't charged with carrying a weapon within school safety zones, disruption of operation of a public school, and willful obstruction of law enforcement by use of threats or violence? There should be a public record of that.

    See this:
    Ahmaud Arbery's Criminal Record Cannot Be Used By Defense in Murder Trial, Judge Rules

    The McMichaels' defense attorneys wanted to use Arbery's criminal history, which included two arrests, hoping it would help prove that the men had good reason to believe Arbery committed a crime before his death.​

    That's consistent with the two arrests in the story I linked.
    The Unz Review styles itself as a free speech refuge. Articles range from terrible quality to Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul libertarian type stuff. They both blog there.
     
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    #108     Oct 20, 2021
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    "mistakenly"

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    #109     Oct 21, 2021
  10. ipatent

    ipatent

     
    #110     Oct 21, 2021