Trumper's won't get vaccinated. Want to stay locked down forever

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Mar 14, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #581     Sep 7, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yep... Unvaccinated America in 5 charts. About 14% of Americans state they will vehemently refuse to get the Covid vaccine -- this number has not changed over time. And this group is primarily white, Republican, lower income, and don't hold college degrees -- while living in red counties with low vaccination levels. Most of these people are not concerned about getting seriously sick by Covid -- while they are also the group clogging our hospitals.

    Unvaccinated America, In 5 Charts
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/unvaccinated-america-in-5-charts/amp/
     
    #582     Sep 9, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Covid-19 is crushing this corner of rural America. Getting the vaccine can still feel like an act of treason
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/us/ozarks-missouri-covid-vaccine/index.html

    It felt like Covid-19 was closing in around us during the five days in August this CNN crew spent in Carter County, Missouri.

    In Van Buren, the county's biggest town, we were sitting next to a 16-year-old when she got a text that masks would be mandated at school because about 20 kids had tested positive after just two days of class. One person we'd wanted to interview had to go to the hospital with a breakthrough infection. Another person found out the night before our interview she'd been exposed to coronavirus by a sick kid at church.
    People were gossiping about who had it and where they got it and whether there was someone in town who knew they had it but refused to isolate.

    "Everybody's scared. Everybody's coming down with it. And it's almost like a plague," Brandon Helvey said. Helvey had had Covid-19 three weeks earlier, but he didn't want to get the vaccine yet, he said. He thought it was still unproven.

    CNN had come to Carter County, in the Ozark Mountains, in October 2020, when coronavirus was starting to hit rural America. At the time, the debate was over masks, and it was very political. "We sit in the coffee shop and we see someone wearing a mask and we think: Democrat," Brian Keathley said last fall, weeks before he got the virus.

    Carter County has just 6,000 people. Van Buren has about 820 residents. It's the kind of place where everyone knows everyone -- and everyone knows everyone who has Covid-19. We came back in August to see what had changed since last fall and what hadn't -- and why, if people here personally knew so many people who got sick, just 27% of the county is fully vaccinated.

    "I had both shots of the vaccine, and people just acted like, 'Oh, it doesn't help,'" Cheryl Wetton said. "It bothers me sometimes that people act like Covid is a big joke. I always want to say, 'Well, why don't you just come right up here to the cemetery, and I'll show you my husband's grave? And I can show you it's no joke.'"

    Wetton actually did say that to a guy in town, she later confirmed. "He just got real quiet."

    "If you have it, everybody knows it. And they're talking about you," Tara Chitwood said. She was working behind the register at a souvenir shop, subbing in for her mom, who'd gotten sick a few days earlier. It was "more than likely" Covid-19, Chitwood said, because one of her mom's friends tested positive. But her mom probably wouldn't get tested, she said.

    It was scary, Chitwood said. Her own little girl had to quarantine. But there was "no way" she'd get the vaccine. Her mom had gotten vaccinated, she said, and got sick anyway. "I've survived this long," Chitwood said, and then expressed a fatalism we heard a lot: She was going to die of something, eventually.

    The latest wave is the worst one yet
    This Covid-19 wave in Carter County is much worse than last year, its public health center said. August was the county's worst month ever. The health center announced new cases on Facebook, in between pleas for patience because it was dealing with so many calls. August 20: 4 new cases. August 21: 4 new cases. August 22: 3 new cases. August 23: 17 new cases, 1 death. August 24: 16 new cases. August 25: 18 new cases. August 26: 16 new cases. August 30: 30 new cases. August 31: 22 new cases. September 1: 18 new cases, 1 death.

    The case counts were split between confirmed and probable because the health center didn't have enough PCR tests, the most sensitive available. On August 31, the health center announced the state health department would send a team to do free PCR tests weekly.

    When we called Cricket Kester, the phone had a bad connection, and she couldn't hear us: "If this is family, call back. Otherwise we're too sick to talk to anybody."

    We did call back, and Kester said she was glad. She and her husband were both vaccinated this spring and got breakthrough infections. She thought they'd be dead without the vaccine, and told us to put the word out that everyone should get it.

    The coffee shop we'd filmed at in 2020 had just closed for two weeks, and everyone we talked to in town had heard people who worked there had gotten sick. The health center said the rumor had pushed a wave of people to get tested for Covid-19. Some in town knew the owners personally and were worried about them, but the owners did not respond to CNN's request for comment. Most people we spoke to knew exactly the last time they'd eaten there.

    Delta variant fuels the death toll -- and the anxiety
    The Current River runs through Van Buren. It's swift and clear, and every summer, thousands of tourists come to boat or float down it on inner tubes. It's three miles of a joyful, often-drunken party drifting past picnics on gravel bars and kids jumping off cliffs.

    That means a lot of jobs are in the service industry, and few people can work from home.

    "They want to hide the fact that they're sick so they can work," Debbie Turley said. "You don't get vaccinated. You don't get tested. You hide your symptoms if you're able to. And you just go out in the community and spread the virus."

    Sometimes a rumor would spread that Covid-19 was running through a restaurant, Turley said. The locals would stay away, but the tourists wouldn't know.

    Turley already had Covid-19, and she was vaccinated, and she wore masks, too. "I was actually exposed this week by someone who didn't know they had it, but they did have a cough, and they didn't stay home," she said. She'd also been in the coffee shop a few times not long before it closed.

    "Nobody died for a long time, so it's taken a while for people to get serious," Jim Rodebush said. The Delta variant is what made it more serious. "It spread so fast. We've had, I guess, 15 people die here." (It is now 16 in Carter County.)

    Rodebush's wife Ruth fought cancer for 12 years, he said. Covid-19 killed her in eight days. She died July 20, 2021. "I talked to her up until the Sunday before she died," Rodebush said. "She said, 'This is bad, I think you all need to get the shot.' And I think she's right."

    Neither had been vaccinated. Ruth had saidher doctor had told her not to get the vaccine because of her chemo, Rodebush said. "I was pretty skeptical of it until I watched all this happen," he said. Now, he plans to get the shot.

    When Ruth was dying, the hospital called at about 2:30 a.m., so Rodebush and his son went to see her. The Covid-19 ward was eerie -- dark, everyone in protective gear, the patients on ventilators, which he knew was the end of the line. "There's nothing good about it," he said. "I don't ever want to go back in one."

    They'd watched our 2020 story for CNN, and he thought it was "bullsh*t." He knew everyone in the video -- every single one of them. At the time, he thought they were wrong about masks, but now it was more visceral. "Those boys sitting in the coffee shop don't know what they're talking about when they're talking about Covid. They need to walk through the Covid ward. That'll change your mind. Just stay a day there. See how you like it. It's a different story then."

    Too 'bullheaded' to take the vaccine
    This is not a place that gets a lot of national news coverage. And it's hard to break into socially. People take care of each other in times of joy and crisis, but newcomers could be there 10 years without really fitting in, Rodebush said.

    (Much more at above url)
     
    #583     Sep 10, 2021

  4. If you get the vaccine in 2021 it is seen as rejecting trump as your savior and pledging your undying loyalty to Biden in the minds of rural GOPtards I guess.

    The dems I have encountered who have not or will not get the vaccine usually cite some religious reason that sounds like bullshit as most religious ojections are.

    A few others used the FDA argument and then when the FDA approved it they said they dont believe the FDA approval..... so the depths of stupidity sometimes knows no bounds.

    Your chioce whether to get it but stop with the bullshit rationale's and just be a man and say you are afriad or dont believe in medicine.
     
    #584     Sep 10, 2021
  5. userque

    userque

    This is probably the #1 real reason for the unvaxxed.

    The unvaxxed when they were younger:

     
    #585     Sep 10, 2021
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    #586     Sep 13, 2021
  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    "I can't wait till you have a period" at the end from the nurse haha.
     
    #587     Sep 13, 2021
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    Getting fully vaccinated massively reduces your chance of dying from COVID-19, a new real-world study suggests
    https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccine-fully-vaccinated-death-breakthrough-cases-ons-2021-9
    • COVID-19 accounted for 0.8% of deaths among fully vaccinated people in England, data shows.
    • In unvaccinated people, COVID-19 accounted for 37% of deaths in the same period.
    • The data is more evidence that vaccines significantly reduce the chance of dying from COVID-19.
    (More at above url)
     
    #588     Sep 14, 2021
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    #589     Sep 14, 2021
  10. jem

    jem

    notice the study ended as the vaccines just began to lose efficacy ...
    another stale stat from gwb be lying.


     
    #590     Sep 14, 2021