Trump wants to run the US like a Trump business and not pay back creditors

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, May 8, 2016.

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    The revenue and cost centers in the economy have definitely evolved over the decades and since WWII. This is a series of the defect for the last 35 years. It was historically large and got a lot of attention while it was increasing 6-8 years ago, but pretty benign today.

    Trump was just taking an opportunity to yap jaw about how good he is at defaulting. Nothing more.
     
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    #21     May 9, 2016
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    #22     May 9, 2016
  3. And Jem was waiting for the IRS to be abolished.:(.
     
    #23     May 9, 2016
  4. jem

    jem

    that was with cruz. which was part of the reason cruz was my first choice.

     
    #24     May 9, 2016
  5. jem

    jem

    so we want to look at govt spending as a percentage of an indicator which includes govt spending?

    how about we just look at the numbers instead of hiding them by normalizing them.


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    #25     May 9, 2016
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    So GDP has been falling since 2009?
     
    #26     May 9, 2016
  7. achilles28

    achilles28

    Notice when the debt exploded. Late 70's early 80's. The beginning of outsourcing. Think that's a coincidence?
     
    #27     May 9, 2016
  8. achilles28

    achilles28

    Trump said he could simply print his way out of a default. In case rates got too high.

    He's shooting off at the mouth. He hasn't thought it through yet.

    First, he suggested a renegotiation. Then he's saying outright print if rates spike (upon a renegotiation...).
     
    #28     May 9, 2016
  9. Viewed in isolation, the debt side of the equation clearly shows a significant increase since the 70's. At the same time, paired up with revenue, the deficit between them is normal.

    That's an observable reality of modernization. Computing and globalization were a game changer. I could elaborate with analogies to the amount of light in a cave man's home before and after the invention of fire, or why computing and networking exponentially enhanced economic growth and the legitimate uses and needs for liquidity. Does it need to be explained? We all get it.

    Outsourcing, an externality of enhanced market efficiency that resulted from the innovations above. Agreed, not a coincidence.
     
    #29     May 9, 2016
  10. achilles28

    achilles28

    Lets use this instead. Debt compared to the size of the economy.

    The big acceleration all started around 1980. When offshoring first took hold.


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    #30     May 9, 2016