Trump vs. DeSantis: Let's get ready to rumble!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 28, 2022.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The coming battle for the racist vote in America
    A sitting governor and a former president are facing off in a white supremacist race for power.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/28/the-coming-battle-for-the-racist-vote-in-america

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    We are in a newly built coliseum. It is wide enough to hold millions. Comfortably seated among us is a lynch mob jeering at the people in shackles being exhibited at the centre of the arena. These are the colonised brought out to be trashed.

    It is the final show. Two demagogues are jousting for power. Each is attempting to prove to all of America’s New Nuremberg now standing atop their seats, cheering (if not outright straight-arm saluting), that it is he, not his opponent, that should be awarded the racists’ vote.

    On one side is a governor. He promises a refined, Ivy League-educated, more methodical racism. A new and improved version. One less vulnerable to outbursts and legal challenges but still with enough markers of klan country – a “monkey” here, a “woke ideology” there – to be admired by the “silent majority”.

    He raises his lance, offering the crowd his exhibition. A spectacle of Black seniors being manhandled by police officers and arrested for allegedly voting as felons. The point here isn’t to prosecute but simply to march out to the middle of the arena confused and worried Black people. To offer their heartbreak as red meat to the hungry mob.

    Other, smaller, politicians follow suit. They ban classic works of African-American literature. They expunge anti-racist ideas from the schools. They call up armed citizen poll watchers to return Black voters as near as they can to a moment in history when the White League and ex-Confederate white soldiers placed pistols at Black voters’ temples to “ensure electoral integrity”.

    Then, from one end of the coliseum to the other this governor sends brown and Black survivors of odysseys through jungles and deserts, fleeing the roving warlord of American imperialism, to “Democrat cities”. He orders them to be dumped in front of liberal politicians’ houses as if to say – but also plausibly deny saying – “you deal with this trash”.

    The sight of dishevelled, travel-worn refugees stuffed into buses and dropped off on to the curb with nothing and no one excites the hearts of the racist spectators. The governor – in his bid to win their support – offers them the sight of “foreigners” forced to drink from toilets in the borderlands that once belonged to their ancestors.

    What is offered to the racists – what is always offered to the racists – is nostalgia. The stealing of babies and distributing them across the country without record and without any hope for their parents to find them reassembles the slave auction sites. With “family separation” the mob is treated to their own modern version of the scenes of wailing in slave quarters.

    Ripping babies away from migrant women while they breastfeed them mirrors the ripping of hundreds of thousands of Black children from their enslaved mothers’ arms so they could be auctioned off. Instead of selling Black babies “down river” they send Brown babies up-road as punishment and as deterrence for the “rest of them” – warning that they should never try to cross colonialism’s fictitious border.

    But the governor cannot say he invented this “zero tolerance” policy that takes children away from reaching arms. That honour belongs to the racists’ hero. The man on the opposite side of the coliseum already fitted in his all-white Knights Templar armour and sat upon a horse with buckling knees weighed down by gold.

    On this side, his lance polished, his name sung in every county that hosted a lynching, his banner raised in every small town that owes its present demographic makeup to the hundreds of 19th and 20th-century pogroms which chased Black and Indigenous people out of its borders with torches, is the former president. He, with his signature flapping wig, needs no introduction.


    The former president will argue that he doesn’t just talk about it, he is about it. He is a “man of action”, of high energy, “manfully aware of the difficulties besetting him and ready to face them”.

    It was he who strode in carrying white nationalism like a banner, exciting white supremacist activists around the globe from Canada to Australia. It was he who rode in with no resistance as the American media then, as now, was no more willing or equipped to examine, recognise or even call out a national white supremacist movement than those American journalists of the 1920s who praised Adolf Hitler as a young “magnetic speaker”.

    A media for whom no amount of fascist saluting, of dog-whistled anti-Semitism and shouted Islamophobia, of tirades against the “foreigners” and “gender deviants”, of scapegoating colonised people, of speaking of his army and his militias, of an auditorium filled to the brim with a mesmerised, chanting crowd – an American Nuremberg rally – can offer any hint.

    Apparently befuddled, the American media – or that part of it which is not openly part of the lynch mob – is forced to make up a nonsense word: Trumpism. Their patriotism, their dedication to the famously racist state always overriding their interest in informing the traditionally targeted populations and naming what is patently obvious: an American Nazi movement.

    The former president did what racist politicians like George Wallace and David Duke dreamed of doing but fell well short of. For this reason, he has the right – he indirectly claims – to the racists’ hearts.

    He boasts he is the leader of legitimated white supremacy. Political white supremacy. The white supremacy that plays in the doorway of open race hatred, crossing it then laughing as it comes back inside, certain of the rule that the American media will always give the white supremacist who manages not to say the N-word aloud the benefit of the doubt.

    The former president points out that he is the originator of unveiled conservatism. The maestro of implausible deniability. The king and kingmaker and the commander-in-chief of the lynch mob movement.

    And quite literally, too. It was he who reportedly fought to lead the crowd that brought nooses for Mike Pence and hurled the N-word at Black Capitol police officers. It was his name chanted by the men and women who rushed over the makeshift barricades of the US Capitol building, with Auschwitz sweatshirts and pro-slavery battle flags, who shouted “where’s Nancy Pelosi?” in a tone that must have resembled the tone of the men who broke into a house in Mississippi and demanded to know where Emmett Till was before they took him.

    It was he who reportedly fought the secret service to lead the pro-MAGA mob breaking into the capital just as, 100 years ago, countless white mobs broke into jails searching for the Black child they said committed an “outrage” to burn alive. Or a century before that when a proslavery mob tried to storm into a warehouse in Alton, Illinois looking for white abolitionist Elijah Parish Lovejoy to kill. It is the white supremacist lynch mob, present at every turn of American history and yet somehow undetectable to today’s liberal political scientist and pundit alike.

    The former president joins his opponent in the centre stage of the coliseum. He is still the rock star of New Nuremberg. When he asks the crowd if they know what the N-word is, they shout it. And he says no, no, nuclear he meant, to an arena of knowing smiles. When he dines with a man that jokes about the furnaces of Nazi concentration camps and the need to install a white supremacist dictatorship, he says “he didn’t know” about his past and the fans tear up at his brilliance.

    And now, during the racists’ storming of Twitter, when a bowing sycophant opens the door to his return, offering the re-platforming of every neo-Nazi and the banishing of every prominent anti-Nazi on a silver platter, he waves it away like bad wine.

    The Holocaust deniers’, the Holy Land Crusaders’, the lynch mob’s king. He still has their hearts even as the political strategists of racist power are eager to move on to a less crude figure who can get things done.

    And so these two behemoths of white power saddle up for battle. The masks are long off.

    The explicit calling of Mexicans rapists, the pursuit of national registries for Muslims, the warning issued to the mob not to “monkey this up,” the overground railroad transporting the unwanted – the racists raise their lances to the stadium. The lynch mob responds with hurrahs. The colonised – pushed, prodded, and paraded – are forced to witness politicians serving their constituents.

    There are minor players too, of course. Even Ye is pressing his pot helm on. He dons his white lives matter T-shirts and “I like Hitler” whimpers in the hope that he will be accepted by the big kids and the more traditionally skinned white supremacists in what has to be the most epic misreading of a room.

    But he, and the hundreds of white supremacist politicians, can be no more than a sideshow for the coliseum’s main event: A rally in America’s New Nuremberg. A lynch mob showing. And a leadership contest for the reins of political white supremacy played out in an amphitheatre before a chanting crowd and a gaggle of note-taking reporters still asking questions about gas prices.
     
    #71     Dec 28, 2022
  2. ids

    ids

    Is it Aljazeera you are quoting here? Yes, it is! They are always great in the support of the U.S. Wait, really? LOL
     
    #72     Dec 28, 2022
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Shows what the world thinks of your two leading GOP Presidential candidates.
     
    #73     Dec 28, 2022
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    #74     Jan 10, 2023
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    gwb-trading

    New Poll Shows DeSantis Beating Biden in 2024 and Trump Losing Rematch of 2020 Race
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-p...n-2024-and-trump-losing-rematch-of-2020-race/

    A new poll shows Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) defeating Joe Biden in a hypothetical 2024 matchup while the president would prevail in a rematch with former President Donald Trump.

    Trump is currently the only declared candidate for the White House in 2024. He announced his candidacy a week after the 2022 midterms in November. DeSantis is keeping his cards close to his vest while Biden has said he will announce a decision soon.

    It is unclear if the controversy surrounding Biden’s handling of classified documents after his time as vice president will weigh on whether or not the president runs for re-election.

    In a new poll released by WPA Intelligence, DeSantis leads Biden among likely voters while Trump trails his White House successor. A survey conducted from Jan. 2 to Jan. 8 among 1,035 likely voters asked them a series of questions about the three potential candidates.

    Respondents were asked whether they viewed each of the three either favorably or unfavorably. Trump was the least popular among the trio.

    Trump was viewed favorably by 39% of the poll’s respondents and unfavorably by 60% for a net unfavorability rating of -21%. The former president was the least popular among young and minority likely voters.

    Biden, meanwhile, was viewed favorably by 45% of likely voters and unfavorably by 55% of the poll’s respondents. His net unfavorably rating was -10%.

    DeSantis, who was reelected governor of Florida in November in a landslide, was the only candidate with a net positive favorability rating of +2%. Forty-one percent of likely voters said they viewed him favorably while 39% sai they viewed him unfavorably.

    When asked who they would vote for in a hypothetical race between Biden and Trump, respondents chose the president by a margin of 8 points at 49% to 41%.

    Asked the same question in a hypothetical matchup between DeSantis and Biden, voters picked Florida’s governor over the president by a three-point margin – 45% to 42%. The result is within the poll’s margin of error.

    The WPA Intelligence poll reported a margin of error at +/- 3 percentage points.
     
    #75     Jan 17, 2023
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump on the possibility of Ron DeSantis running against him in 2024: 'We'll handle that the way I handle things'
    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-possibility-ron-desantis-running-081608830.html
    • Donald Trump sounded a warning shot at Ron DeSantis during a podcast on Monday.
    • Trump said he had heard DeSantis "might want to run" against him.
    • "So, we'll handle that the way I handle things," Trump said.
    On Monday, former President Donald Trump phoned into the conservative podcast "The Water Cooler" and issued a warning to his would-be presidential rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

    "So, now I hear he might want to run against me. So, we'll handle that the way I handle things," Trump said.

    Trump also claimed credit — as he has repeatedly done in the past — for DeSantis having clinched the governorship in 2018, saying, "I got him elected, pure and simple."



    DeSantis has not announced that he will run for president, but he has hinted that he might. During a debate in October, DeSantis did not commit to serving four full years as Florida's governor. Insider's Kimberly Leonard also reported in November that DeSantis is releasing his first autobiography, a key indicator that he is looking toward a White House run.

    DeSantis has also become a prominent frontrunner to challenge Trump for the Republican presidential ticket. In a YouGov poll of 413 Republicans three days after the 2022 midterms, 42% of the respondents said they would rather have DeSantis as the GOP's 2024 nominee. Only 35% said they prefer Trump.

    Meanwhile, Trump has not held back from insulting DeSantis. In November, Trump dubbed the governor "Ron DeSanctimonious" during a rally and blasted him as "average" on social media.

    In private, Trump also does not appear to be DeSantis' biggest fan. In January 2022, Axios' Jonathan Swan reported that Trump was trash-talking the governor behind closed doors, slamming him for his perceived ungratefulness and saying DeSantis has a "dull personality."

    DeSantis, meanwhile, has avoided addressing Trump's insults and refrained from hitting back. At a November 16 press conference, DeSantis told people to "chill out" about a possible GOP civil war between him and the former president.

    Representatives for DeSantis and a spokesman at Trump's post-presidential office did not immediately respond to Insider's requests for comment.

    Read the original article on Business Insider
     
    #76     Jan 17, 2023
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    And now for a poll somewhat showing the complete opposite...

    Trump trounces DeSantis in potential GOP primary match-up, new poll finds
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...potential-gop-primary-matchup-new-poll-finds/

    Former President Trump holds at 17-point lead over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) in a hypothetical GOP primary match-up, according to a new poll.

    A Morning Consult poll released Wednesday showed Trump with 48 percent support among potential Republican primary voters, followed by DeSantis with 31 percent. Trump’s front-runner position differs from some polls since the November midterm elections, which have shown DeSantis closing the gap with Trump or taking a lead in some cases.

    Former Vice President Mike Pence came in third with 8 percent, followed by former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) with 3 percent. Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) both received 2 percent.

    Latest-DeSantis-poll-1.jpg

    Trump’s support in Morning Consult polls over the past month has stayed between 45 and 50 percent, while DeSantis has hovered around 30 percent.

    Among Trump voters in the most recent poll, DeSantis is comfortably the second choice, with 44 percent backing the Florida governor. About 20 percent would support Pence, and 7 percent would back Cruz.

    Just over a third of DeSantis supporters would vote for Trump as their second choice, while 14 percent would support Pence and 13 percent would back Haley.

    Pollsters found Trump’s favorability rating among potential Republican primary voters to be improving over the past month, with 77 percent having a favorable view of him. Trump’s net favorability rating, taken from subtracting the percentage who view him unfavorably from the percentage who view him favorably, passed 50 percent in the Morning Consult polling for the first time in almost a month.

    Almost 7 in 10 potential voters have a favorable view of DeSantis.

    DeSantis has an advantage among potential voters who view each of them unfavorably. Only 11 percent said they view DeSantis unfavorably, while 23 percent said they view Trump unfavorably.

    The poll did show that DeSantis would perform somewhat better against President Biden in a hypothetical general election match-up than Trump would. DeSantis led Biden by 3 points, 44 percent to 41 percent, while Biden led Trump by 3 points, 43 percent to 40 percent.

    Pollsters found two-thirds or more of respondents said they have not heard anything recently about any of the other potential candidates.

    Trump became the first major Republican candidate to jump in the race in November, but several other prominent Republicans have indicated they are considering running. DeSantis has not made a public announcement but has been the subject of heavy speculation surrounding presidential ambitions.

    The poll was conducted from Jan. 13 to 15 among 829 potential Republican primary voters. The margin of error was 4 percentage points.
     
    #77     Jan 18, 2023
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump is fading.

    DeSantis takes commanding lead in first three GOP primary states
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...anding-lead-in-first-three-gop-primary-states

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has not announced he is running for president in 2024, but Republican voters in the first three primary states sure seem to want him to.

    This week, the University of New Hampshire released a poll of New Hampshire Republican voters showing DeSantis with a 42%-30% lead over Donald Trump. Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley got 8%, while New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu and Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan each got 4%.

    Among likely Republican primary voters, just 46% think Trump should run in 2024, compared to 65% who think DeSantis should run.

    Moving to Iowa, which will hold its caucus a week before New Hampshire’s primary, DeSantis is also beating Trump, but by a much smaller 32%-30% margin. As recently as last June, however, Trump had a big 38%-17% lead over DeSantis, but that lead has crumbled.

    In South Carolina, which holds its primary on March 5, DeSantis is crushing Trump 52%-33%.

    If these leads hold, if DeSantis can beat Trump in each of the GOP’s first three primary contests, it is all but impossible to see how Trump could recover.
    Trump capitalized on a divided field to score early victories in 2016, building momentum and picking up new voters as he looked like a winner. Without any early victories, it will be easy to paint Trump as a has-been loser who really needs to exit the stage.

    If these polls don’t change, or if DeSantis’s lead grows, it is even possible that Trump may choose to end his reelection campaign entirely to avoid the embarrassment of a string of crushing losses.
     
    #78     Jan 28, 2023
  9. Trump official: Former president would look 'pathetic' if he returns to Facebook -- and destroy his 'useless' Truth Social platform


    Donald Trump is allowed back on Facebook and Instagram, but one anonymous former senior official said he would look "pathetic" if he came "crawling" back.
     
    #79     Jan 29, 2023
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    #80     Jan 30, 2023