Trump to Comey: You're fired.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, May 9, 2017.

  1. fhl

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    #111     May 14, 2017
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  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm just not going to get into this again. Nothing I can do will ever meet with your approval, Fred, so there's just no point in discussing it. You simply want to argue.
     
    #112     May 15, 2017
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Thank you, Max. I try to stand on principle, not on partisanship. If both the right and left in this country were to support their beliefs, then we would have far more honest politics. We should support people who push the principles we believe in, regardless of the side of the aisle they stand on. By the same token, we should call out those who go against these principles, regardless of the side of the aisle they stand on.

    Otherwise we're never going to get back to honest dialogue on issues. We'll never get away from hypocrisy, because both the left and the right are guilty - in many case of the same offenses.
     
    #113     May 15, 2017
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  4. I was just responding to Max's post. Debate, and all that. Sorry, but it seems that you view people as "debating" if they agree with you, and "arguing" if they don't.
     
    #114     May 15, 2017
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    No, not really. I think it was your comment about how you're "left of center" that made me realize that the difference between how you see the world and how I see it is so vast that nothing I can ever say will ever get you to see me as anything other than some alt-right radical neo-con nazi. So why bother trying.
     
    #115     May 15, 2017
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  6. Again, I was responding to Max's post to me. I addresses his content with a specific example of why I disagree with his assessment. (Debate: point; counterpoint.) You did not address my response to him, just your broad brush dismissal of me. So how exactly are you different from the way you characterize me?
     
    #116     May 15, 2017
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Rather disingenuous to say you were only responding to Max when your conversation was entirely about me.
     
    #117     May 15, 2017
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  8. What is the matter with you? He quoted my post, disagreeing with me about your level of fairness. I responded to his disagreement. I was done with our exchange, just as you were. This was another albeit related exchange started by Max and addressed to me, into which you interjected yourself, understandably because it's about you. But you didn't come in with anything substantive; only something dismissive, thereby ironically assuming the very role you accuse me of. Let's get a grip, shall we?

    If it helps, I have nothing more to add. And if it makes you feel better, I won't respond to any further replies in this thread from Max in this regard, if any.
     
    #118     May 15, 2017
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Do whatever you want Fred. I'm done trying to speak with you.
     
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    #119     May 15, 2017
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  10. Comey friend says ex-director was ‘unsettled’ by Trump’s repeated attempts to influence him and FBI

    A friend and longtime confidant of ousted FBI Director James Comey has gone on the record saying that Comey spoke to him after multiple run-ins with President Donald Trump that left Comey “unsettled” and concerned that the president was attempting to do an end run around the law.

    In a Thursday New York Times interview, senior Brookings Institution fellow — and Lawfare blog editor — Benjamin Wittes described Comey as a meticulous record-keeper who was uncomfortable with the Trump administration’s repeated violations of longstanding policies designed to keep a firewall between the FBI and the executive branch.

    Comey, said Wittes, repeatedly “throw some brushback pitches to the administration” in an attempt to establish proper boundaries with the White House, but Pres. Trump continued to make overtures —
    and then veiled threats — attempting to sway Comey’s thinking with regards to investigations of Trump and his 2016 campaign.

    The Times article detailed a few of the interactions that Comey described to Wittes and presumably — as is his longstanding habit — wrote up memos about:

    Weeks after being elected, Trump called Comey personally and asked the then-director to release a statement saying that Trump was not personally under investigation by the FBI. Comey reportedly demurred and explained to Trump that he must direct any inquiries to the Department of Justice through the White House Counsel.

    At a dinner at the White House, the president reportedly tried to get Comey to pledge his loyalty to Trump and his administration. Comey pledged to be honest with Trump, but that didn’t satisfy the former reality TV game show host.

    At a separate meeting in the Oval Office, Trump pressed Comey to drop his investigation of disgraced national security adviser retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. Comey refused.

    The day after the meeting in the Oval Office, White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus called Comey personally to enlist his aid in pushing back against media reports that members of Trump’s campaign and transition staff had illegal and unreported contacts with Russian officials — reports we now know to be true.

    “It is not clear whether in all their interactions Mr. Comey answered Mr. Trump’s question or if he ever told him whether he was under investigation,” wrote the Times‘ Michael S. Schmidt. “In the letter Mr. Trump sent to Mr. Comey last week in which he informed him that he had been fired, Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey, ‘I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation.’”


    Comey’s associates have dismissed this claim by Trump as “farcical.”

    “Who cares, nothing matters, no one knows anything, everything sucks,” said one FBI agent in response to Trump’s obfuscation.
     
    #120     May 18, 2017