Trump to Boycott Fox Debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Neither is Obama. Face, meet mirror. (Not you, specifically.)
     
    #91     Jan 27, 2016
  2. lindq

    lindq

    If you truly believe that, then you've been badly misinformed and/or misled.

    You need to look closely at his history. Study it away from cable news. Personal and professional. How he built (and destroyed) his businesses and investors, especially in Atlantic City. His pandering to the anger and resentment of uneducated whites, his negativity, his opportunism and self-promotion, his dissing of the country, and most of all his complete lack of depth should give full warning of the kind of person he would be in the White House. He is the very worst example of an American that we should want representing us to the world.
     
    #92     Jan 27, 2016
  3. achilles28

    achilles28

    Trump took a small company from his Dad (valued at ~10 million) and turned it into 10 Billion. That's a 100,000% return....

    Shady shit happens at that level of success. Politicians are inherently corrupt and require bribes to get things done. Trump is no angel, but he's no slouch. He's no idiot. And from what I know, his business dealings are whatever. He threw a Corporation into bankruptcy to break contracts and restructure so it could come out profitable. Whatever. That's part of business and happens all the time.

    There's nothing about his message that bothers me. I love you LindQ, but we do have a Muslim terror problem, an open border problem, an illegal immigrant problem, a debt problem, an offhsoring problem, a jobs problem. List goes on and on. If a person isn't outraged and disgusted with the direction of America today, I would say they need to get their head checked.

    Why is it okay for Bernie to be outraged about jobs, offshoring and open borders? But not when Trump is? Bernie and Trump share very similar policies on many fronts, which is probably why they share the similar grassroots support....
     
    #93     Jan 27, 2016
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  4. achilles28

    achilles28

    Yea, he is.
     
    #94     Jan 27, 2016
  5. jem

    jem

    Murdochs group has spent big money in support of Open borders.
    Fox has become the establishment.
    This all gets curiouser and curiouser.
    The more I learn the more I think Trump is worth the chance. Not that I think he is a great guy... I just hope he is really anti establishment and open borders.
    Now I realize why fox was not taking the establishment traitors to task.
    Which is why I stopped watching.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...work-fox-news-money-flows-open-borders-group/

    In asking the question of “what’s wrong over there?” Trump has shined a spotlight on one of Washington’s best kept secrets: namely, Fox’s role via its founder Rupert Murdoch in pushing an open borders agenda. The Trump campaign is a direct threat to Murdoch’s efforts to open America’s borders. Well-concealed from virtually all reporting on Fox’s treatment of Trump is the fact that Murdoch is the co-chair of what is arguably one of the most powerful immigration lobbying firms in country, the Partnership for a New American Economy (PNAE).

    In addition to blanketing the country, media, and politicians with literature, advertisements, and a barrage of lobbyists pushing for open border immigration policies, the Partnership for A New American Economy (PNAE) was a prime lobbyist for one of the biggest open borders pushes in American history:

    While Donald Trump has pledged to deport those illegally residing in the country and temporarily pause Muslim migration, Rubio’s immigration bill would have granted immediate amnesty and eventual citizenship to millions of illegal aliens, it would have doubled the annual admission of foreign workers, and it would have dispensed 33 million green cards to foreign nationals in the span of a single decade despite current record immigration levels.

    While Megyn Kelly made headlines with her heated questioning of Donald Trump, not one of the Fox News anchors asked Rubio in the first Fox News debate about his signature piece of legislation, which Murdoch’s immigration lobbying firm had endorsed. Instead, they lobbed Rubio a series of softballs, such as asking Rubio if he could put God and veterans in the same sentence.

    Interestingly, Bill Sammon — FOX News’s vice president of News and Washington managing editor — is the father of Brooke Sammon, who is Rubio’s press secretary.
    ....

    McCain told The New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza back in 2013, Fox News was essential to the Rubio-Schumer effort to expand immigration levels beyond all known historical precedent. As Lizza wrote at the time:



    McCain told me, “Rupert Murdoch is a strong supporter of immigration reform, and Roger Ailes is, too.” Murdoch is the chairman and C.E.O. of News Corp., which owns Fox, and Ailes is Fox News’s president. McCain said that he, [Lindsey] Graham, [Marco] Rubio, and others also have talked privately to top hosts at Fox, including Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Neil Cavuto… “God bless Fox,” Graham said. “Last time [i.e. during the 2007 immigration push], it was ‘amnesty’ every fifteen seconds.” He said that the change was important for his reelection, because “eighty per cent of people in my primary get their news from Fox.” He added that the network has “allowed critics to come forward, but it’s been so much better.”

    Murdoch’s support of open borders immigration policies has been identified as a potential conflict of interest for years. As ABC reported in 2013:

    Murdoch, Australian born and a naturalized U.S. citizen, has become an outspoken advocate for immigration reform and mass legalization of the country’s undocumented immigrants, partnering with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg in this cause. Whether Murdoch’s personal views will percolate through his network, or at least temper criticism on the airwaves of those who don’t share it, remains to be seen.
     
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    #95     Jan 27, 2016
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  6. lindq

    lindq

    A fear-monger and opportunist like Trump - and that's PRECISELY what he is - will attach himself to negativity and draw out the worst in disenchanted voters.

    But what does he actually stand for? Certainly not what he stood for even a few years ago. Because what he professes to stand for is ALWAYS a decision based on how the wind is blowing at the moment. That's who he is. That's his nature. And he admits to this.

    It is a very, very sad day in this country when a person like this is given a national stage on which to spout his professed anger and proven lies about the state of the U.S.

    I would again invite you to look much more closely at who this man really is, and not who he is telling you he is.
     
    #96     Jan 27, 2016
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  7. May God bless America (which is already a Great nation!)!
     
    #97     Jan 27, 2016
  8. jem

    jem

    OK... I am concerned you are correct.
    But... if not Trump... who would have the power to break the establishment.
    Would Cruz, would Paul? ...

    If Trump is true... is he not our best shot?
    (note if Cruz were declared he was an NBC at the moment he would have my vote. I think I would also vote for Paul before I voted for Trump.)


     
    #98     Jan 27, 2016

  9. Unlike Obama, he has the interests of our country and its citizens first.

    It really annoys me when people go this condescending route to attack Trump, ie "uneducated whites", etc. Would the media big shots ever have said Obama appealed to dumb blacks and welfare leeches? Trump appeals to the same sort of people Reagan appealed to. As I recall they were mocked by the media as well. Still, Reagan turned out pretty good.
     
    #99     Jan 27, 2016
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  10. This pretty much explains the whole ball of wax. Fox News has sold us out. It has become a vehicle for Murdoch and Ailes to push open borders, just as the Wall Street Journal has.
     
    #100     Jan 27, 2016
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