Trump Said Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. In case you’re not aware, a lot of shit befalls those people who cross Trump from his shit-eating base. So it is not something to be done lightly. What I’m hoping is that they give Trump enough time, and rope, to repeatedly deny it, and then come out blazing. That would be art.
     
    #111     Sep 4, 2020
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Not an argument

    it's also been standard MO these last few yrs.....let the opposing party deny, then release more proof. Sources should wait until late October to remind people and for maximum damage. If they want him gone as CaptainObvious claims, why not be strategic about it?
     
    #112     Sep 4, 2020
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  3. Yeah, but not before being the butt end of a thorough gang rape in prison.
     
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    #113     Sep 4, 2020
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    There could be more info that's schedule to be release. Thus, they could be very strategic and its just the beginning and maximum damage is saved for later as in the last few weeks of October.

    VoteVets.org has a new ad out on Sept 2nd and I suspect they will release more from this point until the elections.



    https://www.votevets.org/

    wrbtrader
     
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    #114     Sep 4, 2020
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  5. I don't know if he is done just by their stepping forward because there are known butthurters trying to even some scores.

    But, yeh, identify them and we can go from there. If it is Kelly or Mattis well, then, the viewer can evaluate that and their motives, and they can explain why Bolton and others who were there contradict them.

    And yes, we know that Cindy and Megan McCain are supporting Biden and are still looking to even scores in the feud between McCain and Trump and are bending arms in their circle to get people to pile on to the McCain issue again. Except, that has sort of been litigated and evaluated by the voters.
     
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    #115     Sep 4, 2020
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Two former senior Trump administration officials confirmed to Fox News that President Trump regularly disparaged veterans.

    According to one former senior Trump administration official: “When the President spoke about the Vietnam War, he said, ‘It was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker’.”

    He added: “What’s in it for them? They don’t make any money.”

    Explained the source: “It was a character flaw of the President. He could not understand why someone would die for their country, not worth it.”
     
    #116     Sep 5, 2020
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    -⁠No Trump in America has ever served in the military; this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, Bavarian authorities accused his grandfather of emigrating to avoid fulfilling his military service, so he lost his Bavarian citizenship.

    -Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs (Trump was actually active with intramural sports in college). https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...or-presidents-medical-deferment-from-vietnam/

    -For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses?” - 1991

    -Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup in 1993 that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported on June 4th, 2019) https://www.newsweek.com/tiffany-tr...-donald-if-she-joined-military-prenup-1442203

    -Trump compared having unprotected sex and avoiding STDs to his own “personal Vietnam” for which he should be awarded the “Congressional Medal of Honor” (1998) https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/14/media/trump-stern-vietnam-stds/index.html

    -Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who were not caught (July 18, 2015)

    -Trump said "I felt that I was in the military in the true sense because I dealt with those people" because he went to a military-style academy and that he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military". (2015 biography)

    -⁠Trump sent funds raised from a January 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans’ charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016)

    -Trump attacks Gold Star families including Myeshia Johnson--gold star widow, Khan family--gold star parents, etc. (2016-present)

    -Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

    -He said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (Oct 3, 2016) (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' distinction is made by Snopes)

    -He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals at a campaign rally (Oct 2016)

    -He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present) https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/10/12/army-expelled-500-immigrant-recruits-in-1-year/

    -⁠Trump continues Obama era policy of deporting veterans with any criminal record (2016-present) https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/08/lawmakers-fight-for-deported-us-veterans-239334

    -He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)

    -He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him “Obama didn't have the guts to do it”) (Oct 4, 2017) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/17/world/africa/niger-ambush-american-soldiers.html

    -Lied about North Korea cooperating on the return of the remains of U.S. troops. (June 2019) https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/politics/trump-north-korea-remains/index.html

    -He forgot a fallen soldier's name during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017) https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10...donald-trump-forgot-her-husbands-name/9078430

    -Trump endorses policy that would result in deportation of active-duty spouses (~11,800 military families face this problem, April 2018) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...-families-face-deportation-issues-group-says/

    -⁠Trump doubled the rejection rate (10 to 20%) for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...p-on-immigration-are-rejected-now-data-shows/

    -Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances due to IT problems caused by the law. Results in many veterans running out of food and rent. “You can count on us to serve, but we can’t count on the VA to make a deadline,” one veteran said. (reported October 7, 2018) -https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...allowances-under-gi-bill-forcing-some-n917286

    -He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border making them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018) https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/border-security-troops-trump.html

    -⁠He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018) https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/19/troops-us-mexico-border-come-home-1005510

    -While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain - but other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

    -He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans’ Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)

    -He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018) https://time.com/5452569/voter-fraud-florida-2018-mail-ballots-absentee/

    -He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...er-judges-trade-deals-khashoggi-a8648251.html

    -Trump allows three wealthy Mar-a-Lago guests to influence VA policy (unknown start - present, made well-known in 2018) https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/22/digital-health-platform-mar-a-lago-members-1676335

    -He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extra-scheduler VA Disability Rating (Dec 17, 2018) https://www.military.com/daily-news...t-benefits-cuts-disabled-unemployed-vets.html

    -Trump and Mattis roll out policy resulting in firing of 2 service members for HIV status just before the 2018 holidays (Dec 19, 2018-present) https://time.com/5485126/lawsuit-air-force-discharge-hiv-positive-members/

    -Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise. He didn't give them a 10% raise (Dec 26, 2018). He initially tried to give the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. This was before Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...p-makes-false-claim-about-military-pay-again/

    -Trump makes post revealing faces of Seal Team 5 on Twitter during his visit to Iraq; not a covert mission, but “make no mistake: Revealing the identities of SOF personnel is still bad news, even if they're not tasked with a real ‘covert’ mission. ’Even during special operation demonstrations for congressional delegations or for the president or vice president, personnel either have their faces covered or their face is digitally blurred prior to a release to the general public,’ as one DoD official told Newsweek. ‘I don't recall another time where special operation forces had to pose with their faces visible while serving in a war zone.’” (Dec 26, 2018) https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/12/28/no-trump-didnt-reveal-covert-navy-seal-team-iraq.html

    -Trump waits nearly two years before making his second visit to troops overseas, logging 154 vacation days at his properties in the meantime (Dec 26, 2018) https://www.npr.org/2018/12/26/6800...-make-secret-trip-to-iraq-to-visit-u-s-troops

    -He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018) https://psmag.com/social-justice/privatizing-the-v-a-is-not-cheap

    -He called retired four-star general, Stanley McChrystal, a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019) https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-retired-army-gen-stanley-mcchrystal-big-dumb/story?id=60106026

    -When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1. As a reminder, the Trump administration's goal was to dismantle the CFPB, installing Mick Mulvaney as the director, who publicly stated the bureau should be disbanded. (Jan 26, 2019) https://theintercept.com/2019/01/26/cfpb-mulvaney-discount/

    -Trump’s ICE policies almost resulted in deportation of a marine vet who is a U.S.-born (Michigan) citizen (Jan 16, 2019) https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686188335/ice-tried-to-deport-this-u-s-citizen-and-marine-veteran

    -Trump bans transgender persons from military service (Jan 22, 2019) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ary-ban-stand-orders-new-review-idUSKCN1TF1ZM

    -He refused to sign his party's funding bill without $5 billion for his border wall, which shut down the government, and forced a branch of the military to go without pay. This branch of military was forced to work without pay, otherwise they would be AWOL. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise (Dec 22, 2018 – Jan 25, 2019)

    -He didn't pay the Coast Guard, forcing service members to rely on food pantries (Jan 23, 2019) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...ers-as-they-prepare-to-miss-another-paycheck/

    -Trump diverted $3.6 billion in military funds (including housing benefits) to pay for border wall (Feb 15, 2019). A judge subsequently denied this. In July 2019, SCOTUS ruled that Trump could in fact divert military housing funds to pay for his wall.

    -On March 20, 2019, Trump complains veteran and former POW John McCain didn't thank him for his funeral

    -Trump ICE policies lead to temporary deportation of husband of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter behind with grandparents (April 16, 2019) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...eyra-husband-soldier-deported-ice-let-back-in

    -Trump closed 208,000 veterans healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment process and enrollment system) (May 2019) https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/06/07/trump-admin-va-applications/

    -Trump pardoned 3 war criminals (May, 2019) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...oops-in-three-controversial-war-crimes-cases/

    -⁠Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan in retaliation for his prior conflicts with the deceased Senator (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered and on May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-mccain-from-trumps-view-in-japan/1313053001/

    -Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4, 2019) https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...bette-midler-wwii-dday-memorial-event-844515/

    -Trump takes swipes at veteran Mueller and Nancy Pelosi in front of WW2 veterans following D-Day speech (June 2019) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/06/donald-trump-d-day-pelosi-mueller

    -In June, 2019, Trump uses military troops to paint border wall for a better "aesthetic appearance" (June 7, 2019) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...next-month-painting-border-fence-with-mexico/

    -Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019) https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-demands-us-military-chiefs-072002784.html

    -Trump pimps out the military for a political show and diverts $2.5 million from Park Services to pay for display that likely violates Hatch Act (July 2019) https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-military-parade-costs-national-parks-millions-fees-2019-7 https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...ration-for-trumps-fourth-of-july-celebration/

    -In July 2019, Trump denied a United States Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his scheduled citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019) https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/07/17/marine-veteran-not-allowed-into-us-for-citizenship-interview/

    -⁠On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuting war criminals https://www.military.com/daily-news...-given-seal-eddie-gallaghers-prosecutors.html

    -On August 2, 2019, Trump again uses military funds for his border wall, this time requisitioning military retirement funds https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...-wall-as-trumps-supreme-court-victories-mount

    -⁠Children of deployed US troops will no longer get automatic American citizenship if born overseas during deployment. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019) https://www.military.com/daily-news...onger-get-automatic-american-citizenship.html

    -Former Sec of Def and veteran Gen. Jim Mattis denounces Trump’s use of the military to tear gas peaceful protesters in DC and actions to divide the nation. Trump promptly tries to rewrite history by claiming Mattis was fired, labeling the retired Marine Corps general “the world’s most overrated General.” https://www.military.com/daily-news...ump-denounces-divisiveness-protests-rage.html

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/04/john-kelly-jim-mattis-feud-trump-301335

    -Trump had previously falsely claimed to have coined Gen. Mattis’s nickname, “Mad Dog” https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...claims-he-coined-the-nickname-mad-dog-mattis/
     
    #117     Sep 5, 2020
  8. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Awesome cut n paste been making the media matters rounds.

    So much YAWWWWWWNNNN

    Enjoy your anonymous former administration ‘sources’. LOOOOOOOL
     
    #118     Sep 5, 2020
  9. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Maybe it was OMAROSA!!! I hear she has a tape where Trump calls all black people ‘Niggers’!
     
    #119     Sep 5, 2020
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    So why is Fox News going along with Media Matters on this one? Did Murdoch merge with them?
     
    #120     Sep 5, 2020