Trump Plays Dangerous Game Of Chicken With Trade Tariffs

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tom B, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. dozu888

    dozu888

    this is why I hesitate to bring up anything else, as you are looking for all the diversions you can.

    you brought up the 0.04%, I gave real 'counter points' with real numbers, but the moment I mention ocean level, you took it as an exit to run away again.

    I can reply about the 'big short' later... but for now I have to keep you in the corner and keep pounding.
     
    #501     Jul 18, 2018
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  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    It is ridiculous to say money knows the truth. It knows nothing. The motivating force is human greed for money. When the sea levels start to rise noticeably the builders of the condos along the beaches of the world will have made a pile of money and moved inland. Why should they care what happens after they have been paid. OK maybe some years in the future.
     
    #502     Jul 19, 2018
  3. schweiz

    schweiz

    Open google chrome and search for "idiot"

    This is what you get as result: out of the first 14 pictures, 12 show the same person.
    MWSnap251.jpg
     
    #503     Jul 19, 2018
  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I agree with you on China.

    Are you opposed to immigration (of whites) between France and Germany as they have two different cultures? Why is the melting pot in the USA great but not in Europe? Or was it better in the past when the melting pot was more euro-centric and today the melting pot is not working great in the US? Or is this really just a rant against liberals? Serious questions.
     
    #504     Jul 19, 2018
  5. srinir

    srinir

    #505     Jul 19, 2018
  6. dozu888

    dozu888

    so you are taking the same escape route.

    this is how the left argue.. they can't possibly win on any facts, because they are full of conflicts.. 1 minute into the first round you are already pinned in a corner with the CO2, now you scramble to find a way out.

    I already said, come clean on CO2 and Paris, then we can move on to whatever you want to discuss.
     
    #506     Jul 19, 2018
  7. srinir

    srinir

     
    #507     Jul 19, 2018
  8. dozu888

    dozu888

    key difference is religion.
     
    #508     Jul 19, 2018
  9. Humpy

    Humpy

    I don't pretend that I am a climate expert but I am willing to listen to those who are rather than those that are NOT like Trump. Are you a qualified climate expert ? Or are you like your hero just mouthing off to get popularity in the coal mining areas ?
    The consequences if they are right are so dire that I consider they should be listened to.
     
    #509     Jul 19, 2018
  10. dozu888

    dozu888

    Ok, I have pounded enough in the corner... a little wiggle room below.

    I have a PhD in physical chemistry and know a little about science. and how researches are financed. if the top is rotten.. NSF, NASA, EPA etc... scientists are human too... I don't blame them... if they can only get grants to confirm man made global warming, lot of them will sell their soul to the devil.... some with more integrity will keep their soul and starve a little.

    That aside, which part of the 3rd grade math about the 2-inch CO2 layer do you not understand? I don't mind to explain it to your satisfaction.. this scam is so blatant, you don't need to be an expert to see thru it... just need a little independent thinking.

    Trump is not a climate expert, neither is Gore, so the default should be no-action about CO2. and Paris is meaningless.... Trump is simply undoing the wrongs.

    'consequence is so dire' - another way of saying 'we are really clueless, but we will still scare people, to keep the research grants coming'...

    I can pin you back to the corner with the 2-inch CO2... how can any sane person think this will burn the earth... and it's not the entire 2-inchs... if we actually implement Paris, the delta to this 2-inch is a few millimeters... that is going to save the earth?

    CO2 is plant food... we have been experiencing global greening because the increased PPMs.. global crop yield increased.. fewer people are starving... burning fossil fuel is also the cheapest source energy to power economic growth in 3rd world countries where many are still burning twigs for fuel.... what about these consequences? how many people are dying or will die if we choke off economic growth and keep those people in poverty?

    should every commercial airliner install anti-missile systems? and parachutes? the consequences are so dire, we better be prepared right? but why are they not installed?

    anyone with any scientific sense can be certain that a few millimeter of CO2 will make a difference as big as you pissing in the ocean... I say the science IS settled.. on this beautiful blue marble ball, we are nothing more than a few microbios that don't make much difference at all.

    but even if we don't know, it is still premature to take any action, without a thorough, independent study (not swayed by grants), of how big the effects are, and what consequences it may bring, positive and negative.

    as a matter of fact, most scientists on the 'doubter' side are not funded and doing research on their own dime.... their results are more trust worthy than the ones who had to live on the grants.... if you want to trust the experts, trust the right ones.
     
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    #510     Jul 19, 2018