Trump plans to sign EO ending birthright citizenship

That's half of the argument.

But the other half of the argument will swirl around the definition of "natural born."

 

Funny thought, if Trump moves to overturn birthright citizenship then all that will left as legal US citizens are peoplenwith Native American Heritage and Elizabeth Warren would still have no chance at being the president.

 

Right. Then we are all technically illegal. Except descendants of slaves and American Indians.

 

Why?

 

Birthright Citizenship wouldn't be an issue if we had control of our borders.

If you're here illegally why should that correlate to automatic citizenship?

 

I believe this EO will be challenged. It will go to court where the SC is likely to overrule it after other courts halt its application.

It does however bring this issue to the forefront that needs to be addressed by a new constitutional amendment.

 

Thank you for posting a link to a clear, concise list.

 

The 14th amendment grants citizenship under the condition of jurisdiction. So the question is, is the jurisdiction in question subject to the will of congress? If so, what is the will of congress?

We know the will of congres as applies to jurisdiction via the various immigration laws, legal travel and business, educational exchanges etc. these all have the authority of congress as jurisdictional applications. So if youre here on a student visa and have a baby Congress has authorized yours and your baby’s legal jurisdiction.

Now if you are unauthorized to be here under any congressional authority do you have negative rights? Meaning is the 14th amendment not subject to congressional authority and is simply unable to be regulated by the government.

I think there is a case here and I would be very interested in seeing the outcome.

For the record, I support birthright citizenship as is understood today and think this case has a low chance of Holding up even with a right wing Supreme Court but I also think there is some merit to the argument.

 

And it may be his intent all along, to force Congress to act.

 

Right. Tighten up the border, put some real teeth in the laws dealing with employing illegals, deport without regard to family separation problems, and the issue becomes pretty much irrelevant.
I'm happy to see Trump continuing to challenge the status quo, bringing these issues to the forefront and demonstrate just how inept our congress really is. The establishment hates him for it, and the more they hate him, the more it shows he's the right man for the job.