Trump pardons war criminal

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  1. Black_Cat

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    #41     Nov 16, 2019
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    #42     Nov 16, 2019
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    #43     Nov 16, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    well; glad that's settled:


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/19/us/navy-seals-edward-gallagher-trident.html

    Navy Wants to Eject From SEALs a Sailor Cleared by Trump, Officials Say
    Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher is expected to be formally notified of the action on Wednesday.

    The Navy SEAL at the center of a high-profile war crimes case has been ordered to appear before Navy leaders Wednesday morning, and is expected to be notified that the Navy intends to oust him from the elite commando force, two Navy officials said on Tuesday.

    The move could put the SEAL commander, Rear Adm. Collin Green, in direct conflict with President Trump, who last week cleared the sailor, Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, of any judicial punishment in the war crimes case. Military leaders opposed that action as well as Mr. Trump’s pardons of two soldiers involved in other murder cases.

    Navy officials had planned to begin the process of taking away Chief Gallagher’s Trident pin, the symbol of his membership in the SEALs, earlier this month. But as he waited outside his commander’s office, Navy leaders sought clearance from the White House that never came, and no action was taken.

    Admiral Green now has the authorization he needs from the Navy to act against Chief Gallagher, and the formal letter notifying the chief of the action has been drafted by the admiral, the two officials said.

    The move sets up a potential confrontation between Mr. Trump, who has repeatedly championed Chief Gallagher, and Admiral Green, who has said he intends to overhaul discipline and ethics in the SEAL teams and sees Chief Gallagher’s behavior as an obstacle.

    One Navy official who spoke about the specifics of the action said the admiral was making the move knowing that it could end his career, but that he had the backing of Adm. Michael M. Gilday, the chief of naval operations, and Richard V. Spencer, the secretary of the Navy.

    Asked about Admiral Gilday, his spokesman, Cmdr. Nate Christensen, said on Tuesday that the admiral “supports his commanders in executing their roles, to include Rear Admiral Green.”

    Chief Gallagher’s lawyer, Timothy Parlatore, said that punishing the chief after the president cleared him last week would amount to insubordination.

    “Does Admiral Green have the authority to do it? Yes,” Mr. Parlatore said in a telephone interview. “But how tone-deaf is the guy? The commander in chief’s intent is crystal clear, that he wants Eddie left alone.”

    Chief Gallagher has been at the center of a whipsaw war crimes case for more than a year. He was arrested and jailed in 2018 on war-crimes charges including shooting unarmed civilians in Iraq and killing a wounded teenage captive with a hunting knife. A military jury acquitted him in July of all the charges except a minor one of posing for a trophy photo with the captive’s corpse; for that crime, he was demoted and faced the possibility of further sanctions. Mr. Trump restored his rank on Friday.

    “I had a feeling that it was coming because, you know, the president has shown the nation he was a man of his word,” Chief Gallagher said in an interview on “Fox News Sunday.” “He knew a lot about all the injustices that went on through this whole ordeal I went through.”

    Navy officials contend that, independent of the criminal charges, Chief Gallagher’s behavior during and since the deployment has fallen below the standard of the SEALs. A Navy investigation uncovered evidence that he had been buying and using narcotics.

    Since his acquittal, Chief Gallagher has trolled the Navy on social media, taunting the SEALs who testified against him; mocking one who wept as he told investigators about witnessing the stabbing of the captive; insulting the Naval Criminal Investigative Service; and calling top SEAL commanders, including Admiral Green, “a bunch of morons.”

    The cases of Chief Gallagher and the three officers will be submitted to a review board, who will decide whether to follow the admiral’s recommendation that they be ejected from the force. The process, which can take several weeks, almost always results in the SEAL’s Trident being taken, according to Patrick Korody, a former Navy prosecutor.

    “I’ve never seen anyone beat it,” he said. “In cases like this, I don’t know if you could find anyone who would go against the admiral’s recommendation.”

    For all four men, the review board’s decision is likely to center on the allegations that Chief Gallagher committed murder during a 2017 deployment to Iraq.

    In court testimony, multiple SEALs in his platoon said that they reported one killing the day it happened, and several times after that as well, but that the platoon commander, Lieutenant Portier, did not forward the report up the chain of command as required by regulations. Lieutenant Portier was criminally charged with failing to report the murder; he denied the charges, and they were dropped after Chief Gallagher was acquitted.

    Commander Breisch was the troop commander over Chief Gallagher and Lieutenant Portier in Iraq. SEALs in the platoon testified that they told him repeatedly about the killings after the deployment, but were told to “decompress” and “let it go,” according to a Navy investigation. Commander Breisch was not charged.

    Lieutenant MacNeil was the most junior officer in the platoon, and was one of the SEALs who reported Chief Gallagher for murder and testified at his trial. During the proceedings, though, it was revealed that Lieutenant MacNeil had done nothing to stop the chief from posing for a trophy photo with the head of the dead teenage captive he was accused of stabbing, and had posed for the photo as well. At trial it was also revealed that Lieutenant MacNeil had been drinking with enlisted SEALs in Iraq, in violation of regulations.

    The president has the authority to stop or reverse any decision concerning the SEALs’ Tridents, according to Eugene R. Fidell, who teaches military justice at Yale Law School. But for generations, he said, presidents have generally refrained from inserting themselves into the military’s personnel decisions.

    “The president is the commander in chief; he could give orders about how to peel the potatoes in the chow hall if he wanted,” Mr. Fidell said. “The question is, should he?”

    Regarding Chief Gallagher’s Trident, he said: “A reasonable observer could say this is a completely inappropriate intrusion into the military. If Trump saves his Trident — and I’d bet on it — I would say he will have driven the wedge ever deeper into an already divided military. And that can’t be helpful.”
     
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    #44     Nov 19, 2019
  5. Black_Cat

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    #45     Nov 21, 2019
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    https://www.npr.org/2019/11/21/7818...ew-of-seal-eddie-gallagher-despite-trumps-twe

    NATIONAL SECURITY
    U.S. Navy Presses On With Board Review Of SEAL Eddie Gallagher Despite Trump's Tweet

    The U.S. Navy said Thursday that it will proceed with a hearing to consider the expulsion of Special Operations Chief Eddie Gallagher from the Navy SEALs, despite his support from President Trump.

    Gallagher and three supervising officers were informed of the administrative review board hearing, set for Dec. 2, on Wednesday.

    "The Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher's Trident Pin," said Trump in a tweet earlier Thursday. "This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to business!"

    The Trident Pin is a symbol of membership in the SEALs.

    In July, Gallagher was acquitted of murdering a wounded Islamic State militant in Iraq in 2017, but he was convicted on the single charge of posing with the body of the dead prisoner. Last week Trump restored Gallagher's rank after he had been demoted to petty officer first class. But the president did not pardon Gallagher for his offense.

    In a statement issued late Thursday, Rear Adm. Charlie Brown, Chief of Information, said:

    "The Navy follows the lawful orders of the President. We will do so in case of an order to stop the administrative review of SOC Gallagher's professional qualification. We are aware of the President's tweet and we are awaiting further guidance."

    The White House didn't respond to an NPR request for comment on the tweet.

    Gallagher's lawyers say Navy brass is seeking to expel him from the SEALs in retaliation for Trump's reversal of his demotion. They filed a complaint with the Navy Inspector General claiming that Naval Special Warfare Commander Rear Adm. Collin Green is defying the president.

    "How can Admiral Green credibly preach about preserving good order and discipline while publicly flouting the orders of the commander in chief?" Gallagher's attorney Timothy Parlatore said as quoted by the Associated Press.

    If a review board decision goes against Gallagher, he can then appeal to the Navy's Personnel Command
     
    #46     Nov 21, 2019
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Oh goody.... Not even Obama experienced mutiny:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/milita...-trump-not-meddle-seal-case-top-navy-n1089661

    Navy secretary strongly considering resigning over Trump's meddling in SEAL case
    Navy Secretary Spencer considered quitting over Trump's demand the Navy stop a probe of SEAL Eddie Gallagher. Military leaders lobbied Trump to reconsider.

    WASHINGTON — Military leaders hoping to keep the Secretary of the Navy from quitting lobbied President Donald Trump aboard Air Force One to stop intervening in the case of a Navy SEAL accused of murder, say five current and one former military and defense officials.

    On Thursday Trump waded once again into the case of Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, a Navy SEAL accused of murdering a wounded ISIS militant in Iraq in 2017. Gallagher was acquitted by a military court but found guilty of posing with the dead prisoner's body.
     
    #47     Nov 23, 2019
  8. vanzandt

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    Looks like the CNO got fired by Esper.

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    Defense Chief Esper Ousts Navy Secretary in Trump SEAL Fallout
    By
    Andy Kostic
    Bloomberg
    November 24, 2019, 5:07 PM EST Updated on November 24, 2019, 5:54 PM EST
    • Esper demands resignation after losing ‘trust and confidence’
    • Trump slammed Navy’s handling of Richard Gallagher situation
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    Secretary Richard Spencer Source: Smith Collection/Gado via Getty Images
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    Defense Secretary Mark Esper asked and received the resignation of Navy Secretary Richard Spencer on Sunday over his handling of the case of a Navy SEAL accused of war crimes in Iraq, the Pentagon said in a statement.

    Esper acted after learning Spencer had approached White House officials privately about the case of Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, a case President Donald Trump has been interested in for months. The request was first reported by the Washington Post.

    The secretary lost “trust and confidence in him regarding his lack of candor over conversations with the White House involving the handling of Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher,” Defense Department spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in an emailed statement.

    The defense secretary learned that Spencer had privately proposed to the White House to restore Gallagher’s rank and allow him to retire with his Trident pin while the Navy pursued disciplinary actions, at odds with his public position on the issue, Hoffman said. Stripping an individual of the pin allows them to remain in the Navy after leaving the elite SEAL unit.

    “I am deeply troubled by this conduct shown by a senior DOD official,” Esper said in the statement. “I have determined that Secretary Spencer no longer has my confidence to continue in his position. I wish Richard well.”

    Kenneth Braithwaite, the current U.S. Ambassador to Norway and a retired Navy Rear Admiral, has been proposed by Esper for consideration as the next Secretary of the Navy. Navy Under Secretary Thomas Modley will take on the role for now.

    Trump criticized the Navy’s handling of the case in a tweet on Thursday, and promoted an appearance by Gallagher Sunday on Fox News.

    The Navy will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher’s Trident Pin. This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to business!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 21, 2019
    Spencer, 65, has served as Navy Secretary since August 2017. The former U.S. Marine worked on Wall Street for about 15 years, including time at investment bank Goldman Sachs.
     
    #48     Nov 24, 2019
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles


    Glad Bloomberg fixed the title. I see Esper gave Spencer the good old Bolton.
     
    #49     Nov 24, 2019
  10. WeToddDid2

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    #50     Nov 24, 2019