Trump pardons war criminal

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  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #31     Nov 16, 2019
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Alex: "sorry that's incorrect"

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    #32     Nov 16, 2019
  3. An anecdote for those who may doubt PTSD being real or not....

    When I was in the military, I agreed to a deal they offered as to when they were going to let me out. Well, they reneged on the deal. Stuck a dagger through my then life plans and cost me my entry into medical school.

    Afterwards I had the dream, "I'm past the date of when the military is supposed to be letting me out, but nobody cares and I can't get anyone's attention to fix it". Had that dream at least 100 times. That's mild PTSD... doesn't compare to combat trauma.
     
    #33     Nov 16, 2019
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Thats not an apples to apples comparison by any means. That's why we, you and I, don't get called for jury duty in matters concerning the USMJ. That's why there is a f'ing UCMJ.

    And if what the Navy Times wrote is correct, and his peers did testify to that, then yes he was guilty of a war crime and it would seem the warning signs were certainly there to have pulled him out before this unfortunate event occurred. Perhaps someone higher should have done some time too.
     
    #34     Nov 16, 2019
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    instead, he gets his rank restored and joins the seals again. Tell me, which seal is going to trust him in their unit with their own lives when he's threatened fellow seals with murder if they didn't keep their mouth shut? How long before he catches a bullet in the back of the neck via friendly fire?

    Trumps PR stunts endanger peoples' lives.
     
    #35     Nov 16, 2019
  6. Using my best Clinton speak defense I did say that we are "effectively" putting them in the position of judge jury and executioner. No they are not actually judge jury and executioner, but we have put them in that position. I am just saying none of this, with few exceptions, is as clear cut as it's often made out to be. The guy out there in the thick of it doesn't have the luxury of heady deliberations that the desk jockeys have. Unless it's some blatant crime we should reserve our judgment on these men we're sending on multiple deployments into this 20 year meat grinder.
     
    #36     Nov 16, 2019
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Except these are the few rare cases where it's clear cut and blatant crimes occurred is the point. One wasn't even allowed to get to court so we'll probably never know.
     
    #37     Nov 16, 2019
  8. RRY16

    RRY16

    You would have been a great Proctologist.
     
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    #38     Nov 16, 2019
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    You're too kind. I think chiropractors call themselves doctors no?
     
    #39     Nov 16, 2019
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/opinion/trump-war-crimes-pardons-gallagher.html

    President Donald Trump on Friday cleared three military service members of war crimes, even after being reportedly advised against doing so by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy.

    Before joining the Department of Defense, Esper was vice president of government relations at Raytheon, a major U.S. defense contractor.[3] During his time at Raytheon, Esper was recognized as a top corporate lobbyist by The Hill in 2015[4] and 2016.[5]

    Esper served as an infantry officer with the 101st Airborne Division and deployed with the "Screaming Eagles" for the 1990–91 Gulf War. His battalion was part of the famous "left hook" that led to the defeat of the Iraqi Army. For his actions, Esper was awarded a Bronze Star, the Combat Infantryman's Badge, and various service medals.[12] He later led an Airborne Rifle Company in Europe and served as an Army fellow at the Pentagon.[11] Esper served on active duty for more than ten years before moving to the Army National Guard and later the Army Reserve, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel.[14] Esper is a recipient of the Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service. Among his military awards and decorations are the Legion of Merit, Bronze Star Medal, the Kuwait Liberation Medal, Kuwait Liberation Medal – Saudi Arabia, and the Combat Infantryman Badge.[15]

    Ryan D. McCarthy (born 1973 or 1974) is an American business executive and former United States Army Ranger serving as the 24th and current United States Secretary of the Army.

    McCarthy graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in history from the Virginia Military Institute. He has a Master of Business Administration degree from the Robert H. Smith School of Business at the University of Maryland. A former United States Army Ranger, he served in the 75th Ranger Regiment during the United States invasion of Afghanistan.[8]
     
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    #40     Nov 16, 2019